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RE: Deer Hunting Shows

Postby PrairieShadow » Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:54 pm

Id agree that sometimes they  make it "look" a certain way. sometimes i think when they show the guy drawing his bow that it is a completely different setting. I think the only thing real is seeing the arrow hitting the deer. All the rest is just edited in at some point.
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RE: Deer Hunting Shows

Postby RatherBeHuntin24/7 » Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:12 am

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sometimes i think when they show the guy drawing his bow that it is a completely different setting.

 
haa thats so true, ive seen a couple where they would show the hunter from different positions before he took the shot. hmm so he had an entire camera crew with him or that camera man could move on a tree better than spiderman.. or it was a totally different setting.

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RE: Deer Hunting Shows

Postby DeerCamp » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:16 am

I have a friend who's brother does a lot of that stuff. He told me a lot of times, they will flim up to the shot. After the shot is made they will then take a bunch of footage of him drawling back the bow, different angles, ect.. They always show the excitement of the buck last. They always do it right after the shot to try and get everything the same, sky wind, light ect... They also have always found the deer before they show them walking up on it. Once that is all taken they will edit it in the way it has to be. There is really a LONG list of things that one must get of the hunt, before the tape is even made. I think you all would be susprized at whats on that list. Ill see if I can get a copy from him and post it on here, when I get back from my trip. As far as them "selling products" HECK YEAH that's what the whole thing was made for.  They'll zoom in on some muzzy's in  the show send it in, and what do you think they get for free? That goes with everything they show. That's from a "semi" known show. I dont even want to think of what the pro's get for their video's.So yeah I am 110% sure that they are "just" selling the products when doing a video. That's my take from a guy who shoot's them every year and has a few dvd's out.
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RE: Deer Hunting Shows

Postby Woods Walker » Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:01 am

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To me, these hunting shows and porno movies have alot in common:
 
1. They both use whores.
 
2. They both exploit what should be a personal experience and degrade it.
 
3. They both give a false view of the subject that they are showing.
 
4. When you've seen one, you've seen them all.
 
5. They could ALL be titled "STUFF THAT NEVER HAPPENS TO ME!!"
 
6. They both depict something that I would MUCH ,MUCH ,MUCH rather DO than WATCH!   [:D]

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RE: Deer Hunting Shows

Postby PrairieShadow » Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:44 am

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[blockquote]
To me, these hunting shows and porno movies have alot in common:

1. They both use whores.

2. They both exploit what should be a personal experience and degrade it.

3. They both give a false view of the subject that they are showing.

4. When you've seen one, you've seen them all.

5. They could ALL be titled "STUFF THAT NEVER HAPPENS TO ME!!"

6. They both depict something that I would MUCH ,MUCH ,MUCH rather DO than WATCH!   [:D]

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Im with you on all of these but #1?  Im i just slow this morning?
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RE: Deer Hunting Shows

Postby ranwin33 » Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:48 am

Deer hunting shows have to have some measure of edited camera footage not directly associated with the hunt, otherwise the shows would be far less interesting, at least in the minds of the producers. 
 
If a show wants to throw in staged footage of the hunter drawing the bow, or looking through the scope, or even coming up on the deer after the kill, then that's fine by me.  So long as it doesn't alter what actually happened.  It's not really reasonable to expect shows to get these types of shots to be filmed as they truly happen, if they tried there would be far fewer deer killed, and there surely is a marketing company somewhere telling the producers that dead deer is what the viewers want to see. As the shows become more and more "professional" with the editing, we're likely to see more of this type of camera work. 
 
As for poor shots, yeah, some of the ones taken are pretty bad and definatley on the questionable side.  Given how many deer these hunters kill, I'm not sure why they do it.  But, some of those poor shots are just the nature of the beast and to be expected in our sport - those I can forgive.  I certainly would never claim that every shot I've made was perfect.  I want it to be, but I'm also honest enough with myself to know it won't happen.
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RE: Deer Hunting Shows

Postby Woods Walker » Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:55 am

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[blockquote]
To me, these hunting shows and porno movies have alot in common:

1. They both use whores.

2. They both exploit what should be a personal experience and degrade it.

3. They both give a false view of the subject that they are showing.

4. When you've seen one, you've seen them all.

5. They could ALL be titled "STUFF THAT NEVER HAPPENS TO ME!!"

6. They both depict something that I would MUCH ,MUCH ,MUCH rather DO than WATCH!   [:D]

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Im with you on all of these but #1?  Im i just slow this morning?


Of course. They both perform a false, contrived act...for money...to portray what should be a deep, personal, spontaneous experience.  Like I said, whores.
 
The only thing in a hunting show that's not a whore is the deer that's being killed. He ain't fakin' NOTHIN"!!!!!  [:)]
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RE: Deer Hunting Shows

Postby PrairieShadow » Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:18 am

Gotchya, I guess i may hae taken that slightly out of context this morning.[:)]
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RE: Deer Hunting Shows

Postby Big Buck Daddy » Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:34 am

How do the hunters (word used loosely) feel about using their Hollywood skills in acting completely surprised when they walk up on their trophy for the first time (with the camera on the ground behind the animal)?  WOW, great acting!  I'm getting real bored with the wispering in the tree stand, drawing the bow and holding it (poor guys :( ) and the drama of the blood trail.  I'm more interested in the shows that teach me deer activity and behaivor.
 
I got my bow used 5 years ago when a friend of mine's Doctor got to go on a filmed-hunt out west.  He had to go out and pick out a new Matthews bow, Easton arrows, Muzzy tips, a whole new RealTree wardrobe!  (I'm not bashing the products!!!!!)  All that before the producers would allow him to be taped on the hunt!  Of course to him, money was no issue; and to me, his adventure brought me good fortune (a free bow!).
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RE: Deer Hunting Shows

Postby DeanoZ » Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:56 am

Interesting this thread should come up....just last night I was watching a show on Outdoors Tv and they featured one of the Realtreee Pro Staff Hunters.  He made a 30 yrd shot from a stand, clearly high and behind the ribcage.  I saw it and said "ooof" he's going to be tracking it a while...the deer went on its death run, circled, dropped behind a knoll and out of sight.  So I'm thinking he probably ran a total of 75 yrds how in the hell did he drop so quickly...meanwhile the camera pans back to the face of the hunter, clearly disgusted with the shot placement...he knew it was a bad shot too!  They go to commercial break and when they return all of the sudden he's got this happy smile on his face.."Hey we just reviewed the footage and it looks like the placement was good after all..we can even see him as he fell over behind the knoll!!"  I'm thinking "HUH???  No friggen way!!".  Next scene its pitch black out and they are where the deer went down...mind you he shot this buck at about 4 PM..it was an early fall hunt so its not really dark until 7:30- 8pm, almost 4 hours later, as he's walking he goes into some diatribe about it being too late to capture the footage of the tracking...HUH???  Sure sounds hokey to me, don't ya think?

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