First off if a guy talked to me like that, he wouldn't do it twice..
And I will have to agree with 480 on this issue..People have turned deer hunting into a chest beating frenzy, all the is talk about P&Y and B&C, like you have to have a deer score in order for it to be a trophy, I would love to kill giant bucks and bulls, that's why I hunt hard, I have taken a fair share of good deer & elk, but i make the decision when I see the animal if I am gonna kill it, and if it doesn't measure up to what you consider a trophy oh well KMA...
Every deer harvested, I consider a trophy to a degree, but I can't bring myself to harvest any buck that is smaller then the last one I took, its just to easy. When someone is practicing QDM, or even TDM for that matter they have to set some size or age standards for bucks harvested on the property, surely you can't fault a land owner/manager for that? You would love to kill giant bucks, but harvest any small buck that walks by? Kinda sounds like your hunting methods are counter productive. If Bill Jorden invited you to one of his whitetail hunting ranches, and told you to harvest a mature 150" or larger buck, would you shoot a yearling buck?
If I am paying for a hunt I plan on killing a trophy buck since I would be paying to do just that. Its as simple as that. When I hunt open range land like most of us have to do here I shoot what ever animal I feel the need to kill. I will not apologies to anyone for killing a deer they consider too "small". And for the record if I was invited to hunt someones land and they want me to kill a trophy buck I would do just that..I just dont hunt for horns.
So its safe to say you will harvest any young buck, unless the landowner asks you not to shoot young bucks. Why shouldnt Les be granted the same respect, or other landowners, and hunters who practice QDM. If your not "horn hunting" shouldn't you be shooting doe's, instead of the young bucks. Looks to me like it's a double standard way of thinking.
My combine broke so I can't harvest deer. I will not hunt unlawful and shoot a doe here just cause I dont kill a giant buck, cause shooting doe's without a permit is unlawful here except bow hunting,or without a special permit, and I will kill em if I decide to bow hunt that year... And of course I will hunt and kill what the landowner ask me to wouldn't anybody.
And around here killing a large blacktail buck is very hard to do, way to much brush and once one is spoked u will probably never see it again, and they are about impossible to patern.
[/quote] I see the problem clearly now....your harvesting blacktail deer with your combine, instead of your weapons.[8|] I was discussing the whitetail deer QDM perspective in the original thread, or did I miss a post about blacktail deer? Well anyway, atleast you can abide by a landowners personal wishes pertaining to deer herd management harvest goals.[&:]
Oh sorry I didn't know that blacktail deer were not allowed to be managed.
we have a strain of whitetail here called the columbian whitetail, they are protected here, but they hunt them in Oregon, anyway why is there less columbians now than when they hunted them here. weird that were they can hunt they thrive were they can't hunt them they ain't doing as well. And I am just thinking outloud.
Wheat is harvested, Animals are killed...