Ethics.. Schmethics Mockery

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Ethics.. Schmethics Mockery

Postby scotman » Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:59 pm

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The March 2011 Deer and Deer Hunting magazine posted a sequel to Ted Nugents article called "Ethics... Schmethics" written by Ted himself. The opening headline which I found very dismally ironic states,
When Hunters wring their hands worrying about how they're perceived, it erodes the hunting community credibility by Ted Nugent

I was just wondering how the world perceives Ted Nugent after getting charged for poaching? Ted personally plead "no contest" to the charges. Get this he was charged with two misdemeanors and over 11 counts of baiting and poaching while filming his show "Spirit of the Wild". Ted was quoted saying...
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You may have read the news that I pled no contest to two misdemeanor game violations, it states. I should have been better informed, more aware and I take full responsibility. The honorable hunting lifestyle is my deepest passion.


You should have known the game laws but that's no excuse Ted. Our hunting tradition is not about "should haves". Ofcourse people will argue the charges where dropped, which they where. But this guy represents all of us a sportsman!

You can read the [url=http://www.mtdemocrat.com/archived-stories/Rocker_Nugent_pays_DFG_fine/]full article here
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Yes Ted I personally worry about how our tradition is perceived. Especially when it comes to "rock stars" trying to popularize our tradition and turning around getting arrested for baiting and poaching. So who is really eroding the hunting community?
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RE: Ethics.. Schmethics Mockery

Postby badtoys » Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:35 am

oh well he got busted!! you never did anything illegal right not?? leave ted alone
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RE: Ethics.. Schmethics Mockery

Postby msbadger » Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:01 am

That axe has been ground right down to the handle[8|]

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RE: Ethics.. Schmethics Mockery

Postby SCHINK » Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:18 am

OH BOY........don't start up the ETHICS thing again......it turns into arguing bout ABORTION AND THE BIBLE.......DOH......[:D]
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RE: Ethics.. Schmethics Mockery

Postby Sailfish » Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:19 am

While I do think this subject been Image it is something important that we all can hopefully take a valuable lesson from. It is good to remember events such as these.
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Postby hunter480 » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:12 pm

Got my latest issue today, and was disappointed when i saw D&DH had run another piece by nugent.......
 
Then to see some of the comments here, simply dismissing ethics in general, and defending nugent in particular......unbelievable.
 
Ethics are vital in all aspects of life, and especially in hunting, where we are already perceived by some in the anti crowd as souless killers. But regardless of what others may think or say, we should be bound to act with the highest ethical standards when we`re in the field with weapon in hand. The animals we hunt deserve to be hunted fairly, and by folks who are capable of, all things being equal, quick, humane kills.
 
nugent is always a blowhard, but in this piece, he really goes over the top with his pathetic whining and drivel. It`s unbelievable that any magazine continues to give him a platform for his outrageous rhetoric and constant off the wall commentary.
 
This guy does not represent me, and he gives hunting and gun ownership a black eye with his crazy-speak, and his immature antics.........now, add poacher to his list of accomplishments.
 
Ethics are vital, and they paint a vivid picture of the person you really are, and whether nugent, or anyone else wants to discuss them, you tell the tale of who you are better than any written or oral description you could ever provide of yourself. nugent continues to be extremely lacking in them.
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RE: Ethics.. Schmethics Mockery

Postby IsitInTREES » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:43 pm

I agree that Ted is a little over the top. Read further into his baiting charge, he was on a paid hunt.
The guides did the baiting.
I'm sure he knew but figured no one was watching.... that is the true test of ethics...
What you do when no one is watching.
I pride myself in being an ethical hunter and person.

I am conflicted, Ted is one of the few professionals that is proud and willing to stand up for our right to hunt.
I still believe that Ted is a good person and is good for hunting.

Is he the best role model????? Not sure, but he stands up for us and our culture.
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RE: Ethics.. Schmethics Mockery

Postby Gulfcapt » Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:40 am

Very well put Sir!!!!!!!![;)]
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I agree that Ted is a little over the top. Read further into his baiting charge, he was on a paid hunt.
The guides did the baiting.
I'm sure he knew but figured no one was watching.... that is the true test of ethics...
What you do when no one is watching.
I pride myself in being an ethical hunter and person.

I am conflicted, Ted is one of the few professionals that is proud and willing to stand up for our right to hunt.
I still believe that Ted is a good person and is good for hunting.

Is he the best role model????? Not sure, but he stands up for us and our culture.

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RE: Ethics.. Schmethics Mockery

Postby badtoys » Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:31 am

right on
 
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I agree that Ted is a little over the top. Read further into his baiting charge, he was on a paid hunt.
The guides did the baiting.
I'm sure he knew but figured no one was watching.... that is the true test of ethics...
What you do when no one is watching.
I pride myself in being an ethical hunter and person.

I am conflicted, Ted is one of the few professionals that is proud and willing to stand up for our right to hunt.
I still believe that Ted is a good person and is good for hunting.

Is he the best role model????? Not sure, but he stands up for us and our culture.
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RE: Ethics.. Schmethics Mockery

Postby Marc Anthony » Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:16 am

ORIGINAL: hunter480

Got my latest issue today, and was disappointed when i saw D&DH had run another piece by nugent.......

Then to see some of the comments here, simply dismissing ethics in general, and defending nugent in particular......unbelievable.

Ethics are vital in all aspects of life, and especially in hunting, where we are already perceived by some in the anti crowd as souless killers. But regardless of what others may think or say, we should be bound to act with the highest ethical standards when we`re in the field with weapon in hand. The animals we hunt deserve to be hunted fairly, and by folks who are capable of, all things being equal, quick, humane kills.

nugent is always a blowhard, but in this piece, he really goes over the top with his pathetic whining and drivel. It`s unbelievable that any magazine continues to give him a platform for his outrageous rhetoric and constant off the wall commentary.

This guy does not represent me, and he gives hunting and gun ownership a black eye with his crazy-speak, and his immature antics.........now, add poacher to his list of accomplishments.

Ethics are vital, and they paint a vivid picture of the person you really are, and whether nugent, or anyone else wants to discuss them, you tell the tale of who you are better than any written or oral description you could ever provide of yourself. nugent continues to be extremely lacking in them.


X 2 . It's time to put the lid on Ted. He tells everyone how to hunt, when we should hunt and why we should hunt. He's no better than any other hunter who blasts to all how they should hunt. I'm not sure why Ted is in the spotlight? He hunts, so what? So do 2 million other people in the U.S., many whom are "ethical" and respected. He's a narcissist and has to be in the spotlight. Sorry, Ted doesn't speak for me either.
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