Again it boils down to you disagreeing with a stance that Marc holds and doing what you can to discredit him, which is a direct contradiction to what you are telling others on how to behave and think in this thread with regards to Ted. It just so happens that difference of opinion conflicts with your profession.
So your stance should really be, tolerate everything other hunters do regardless of if you agree with their beliefs or not because to not do so gives the anti hunters more ammo against us...Unless their opinions happen to go against my profession, then the gloves are off and you can do whatever you would like to try to berate them and try get others to turn against that person as well.
So in essence, the only way I should disagree with anything Ted says or speak out against him is if I happen to be a stupid lawmaker whose brain is not functioning properly?
I most definitely disagree with Marc on numerous issues I'm certain. I've looked at his blog site and it's filled with references to "fair chase", and he even implies on it that you are somehow less than a sporting hunter if you use elevated blinds rather than sitting on the ground with your prey.
Innumerable things I disagree with him on I'm certain.
But, the only thing I'm taking him to task on is his statement that guided hunts are not hunting. Which I view as ridiculous and harmful to a vast number of hunting enthusiasts.
Where have I been trying to get others to turn against Marc? Chewing on his ass for his attack on guide hunting and Texas hunting practices is trying to get others to turn against him? How?
And what should I do, just say hey, that's ok, a guy who (by his on brag) influences thousands of folks daily should be free to re-define my profession as "not hunting", and just let it go?
Nah that's where the influence comes in. I don't want him freely influencing new hunters that way. Not without a voice of dissent. Like Mike said, I don't influence all that many (just a few hundred hunters a year), but Ted does. Thank God he's not out there shitting on folks in the hunting or shooting industry like our friend Marc.
And feel free to disagree with Ted.
I guess you didn't read my posts. I disagree with Ted on several issues. Ted and I have argued very "briskly" about issues several times. But I don't denigrate his chosen profession or him as a person. I respect him as a hunting and gun rights activist way too much for that.
So yes, disagree with Ted all you want. I do. It's much fun. You should come to his site and try it. He won't kick you off, I'm living proof.
Bigiron, it's one thing to disagree with a person but to flat out lie and make up things is another. I know you went to my blog and my website and can even tell what time and from what building in Victoria TX. you typed in the search info into your computer. I even know your ISP, not that I care.
What I do care about is liable issues. When another person puts things in writing for the public to see that aren't true, that can create a problem. Now I'm going to explain somethings here in a dignified manner and you can either comprehend what I'm saying or you can continue to deny it all for the sake of wanting to sew discord among hunters, but I will not let another false statement wander around the internet that's been made-up by someone who feels the need to discredit another person for whatever reason.
1. I'm all for fair chase hunting. You act like fair chase is something to be ashamed about!
2. Never have I ever condemned anyone for hunting legally.
3. Never have I said anything here negative about outfitters or guided hunts, so that's a flat out lie.
4. Never have I said anything negative about TX. hunters, EVER.
5. Never in any of my posts on my blog do I EVER say you are less of a sporting hunter by using elevated blinds. Where do you get off making this stuff up?!
Now I'm going to be the first to put this thing to rest AGAIN, so please leave me out of your fantasy to destroy anyone whom you don't want around. The fact of the matter is, you make up things that are not said here and that's sick. Ted is a grown boy and if he wants to defend himself, he can certainly come to this thread and do so. He doesn't need YOU to be his protector. Now if you like Ted, more power to you, I won't bash you for liking him, that's your God given right. What you need to understand is people here will disagree with Ted and always have mainly because of his DELIVERY, not so much his beliefs. Please read that one more time because I want to drive that home so you don't have to make things up again.
In addition to his delivery, he must be very careful if he wants to defend hunters in America. Now PLEASE try really hard to understand this and just for once see what some of us here are saying. When a person of his exposure gets caught for doing something against the law (I don't care if he knew it or not), he is a prime target for PETA and every other non hunting organization to attack. A person in his shoes MUST be careful or he shouldn't be representing the group of people he wants to defend. It's really pretty simple! It's not bashing him, it's not picking on him, it's not making fun of him, it's just a responsibility FOR him.
So lets do everyone a favor and either drop this subject or at least converse in a respectful manner here. This is EXACTLY the kind of stuff that anti-hunters love to expose.