Anyone use TC T17 foaming bore cleaner?

[berudd]

I just picked some up to give it a try. Earlier today I had done a minor cleaning on my ML so figured it was reasonably clean. Then I shot some of this stuff down the bore and it was still filthy in there. Not sure how it works on centerfire yet but it seems to be the ticket for muzzleloaders.

[shaman]

I'm a Ed's Red fan. I homebrew the stuff myself by the quart.