I just started muzzloading last year using loose Shockey's Gold. I worked ok. I hated how inconsistent the grain sizes are. I also noticed a drop in my groups a couple months after I initially opened the can even though it was shut tight. I was able to get a 1 1/2" group using 200gr Shockwaves. I heard all the hype about Blackhorn 209 and picked a bottle up this summer. Man, it cut my group in have, basically a clover leaf no at 100yds measuring .75" accross. No swabbing between shots which I was having to do with the Shockeys even though they claim you don't. Cleans farily easy using Hopes, but the breech plug takes a little more attention. The velocity should be about 200 fps faster than the Shockeys as well. It's expensive, but I don't do a ton of shooting and to me it's well worth it. Now I just need to get rid of the Shockeys. Anyone in MD want about 2/3 - 3/4 of a can of Shockey's?