Great story! All the people bagging on your length of shot and talking about what you used... who cares. Haters! I enjoy hearing what you used. Those stating you watch too many hunting shows... guess what? They talk about all that stuff because it provides color and makes the story more interesting. Or maybe someone can learn something or a product that worked for you and try it themselves... what a novel idea! As far as the shot length, they obviously do not know what a good quality hunter can do with a top-of-the-line bow these days! I am supremely confident that I am better at 80 yards than over 50% of bow hunters at 30 yards. I'll stand by that. I have a ton of friends that have missed great bucks at this closer range. One friend is a decent shot, but missed three bucks this year at that 30 yard range. I shoot an HHA sight, single pin, with a mark at 10-20-30-40-50-60-70-80-90-100. Every time I shoot I shoot out to 100 yards. I never miss my carbon block, which is a small one. I can hit a dinner plate nearly every time at 80. The kinetic energy I get from my set up is phenomenal even at 110 yards when I shoot. I get as much or more penetration at 80-100 yards as friends I shoot with get at 40! My take is, if you are a good hunter, take the situation at hand into consideration, are ethical and do not want to injure deer, you can safely shoot to wherever you routinely practice with great results. I told my father in law- If you shoot a big deer or elk at 80 yards, it surely is luck, because you never practice at that range, and cannot shoot well over 35 yards. If I shoot one at 80, and practice that range every day before the trip with great results, and succeed, it is not luck. PRACTICE MEETS OPPORTUNITY IS SKILL! Not luck! If you are fairly certain a bull or buck is stationary, and deliver a quality shot, at a yardage you know you get good penetration, it is still ethical. If you wound a bunch of animals shooting at 30 yards, maybe you should stop bow hunting all together! My brother and I have killed a number of elk at ranges over 50 yards. This past bow season (about 2 1/2 weeks ago), I had just set up a WI gun stand for my CA brother. He asked my to go back and put a string in it to pull up his gun opening morning. I went over mid day and decided to just sit there the last 2 hours as to not stir up the woods any more. I saw 2 doe go through a path that I ranged at 80 yards. A few minutes later I glassed a nice rack on a buck taking the same path. I re-ranged the path again... 80 yards. I grunted him to a stop in this wide open shooting lane, and new if he kept following the does, which were now in the alf alfa field 100 yards ahead, I would be out of luck. I also knew that an 80 yard shot is something I do all the time (including the day before in my back yard) with great success and penetration. I swung my pin to 80 and grunted as he was entering the lane. He stopped and looked in my direction. I grunted two more times and he just stood there motionless not even looking in my direction, fixated on the two does. Earlier that morning, I saw two other bucks that had no interest in a grunt or doe bleat as well. I surmised that this was my only chance, and realized that he was competely broadside, motionless, and providing me with an opportunity to deliver on what I consider an ethical shot. I released my arrow and watched in fly right toward his chest. Thwack! He ran like a freight train to the edge of the woods, veered 90 degrees to the right and collapsed into a thicket. My ratractable broadhead flew true (as it has in target practice), blasted right throught the entry side rib, double lunged him, and planted itself into the far rib cage. I now have the meat and (eventual) mount of a 140 plus class archery buck at home, not just on trail cam. Can more than 5% of hunters make this shot? Heck no! Was it an ethical one, yes! Know your range, your skill, your penetration, adjust to the cricumstances and make the shot if you know it to be ethical/ high percentage. If you don't like that I took an 80 yard shot, or that Jay took a 60 yard shot... too bad! Go wound another deer, haters! Great job, Jay! I'm jealous, but very happy for you!