New Deer Proposals

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New Deer Proposals

Postby Bryan78 » Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:00 pm

[font="verdana, arial"][size="2"]DNR to recommend new deer rules to NRC

The Indiana Department of Natural Resources has unveiled a new package of recommended changes to deer hunting rules that will be presented to the Natural Resources Commission at its Jan. 11 meeting at Fort Harrison State Park in Indianapolis.

The recommendations were developed after the NRC withdrew its preliminary approval of an earlier plan because overwhelming public comment opposed shortening some segments of the deer hunting seasons. DNR Division of Fish and Wildlife staff biologists believe the proposed multiple shorter seasons in the earlier plan, some for antlerless deer only, would have contributed to the goal of reducing deer numbers by placing greater emphasis on hunting of antlerless deer.

“The new proposal has the same objective – to focus deer herd reduction in a strategically-targeted manner to more adequately balance ecological, recreational and economic needs of the citizens of Indiana,” said Mark Reiter, director of the DNR Division of Fish and Wildlife. “Our responsibility is to manage wildlife for all Hoosiers. Some pointed to the previous proposal as an effort to manage the herd for trophy animals or increase license revenue. That was not the case.”

The new recommendations maintain the focus but leave the firearms and muzzleloader seasons at their traditional 16-day lengths and drop a proposed two-day October season.

“This new proposal was created by staff within the DNR, using historic data gathered for deer management in Indiana, feedback from comments received during the initial proposal, and data from surrounding states,” said Mitch Marcus, wildlife section chief for the Division of Fish and Wildlife. “We can’t emphasize enough that the goal is to reduce deer numbers in a strategic manner; not everywhere, but certainly in areas of the state where it’s needed to address the balance we’re trying to achieve.”

Three key points of the new recommendation are carryovers from the previous proposal:

--Adding a special antlerless only firearms season from Dec. 26 through the first Sunday in January of the following year in counties with a bonus antlerless quota of four or more deer;

--Extending the urban zone season through Jan. 31 of the following year;


--Requiring hunters hunting in an urban zone during the urban zone season to take at least one antlerless deer before taking an antlered deer.

New components include:

--Changing the current split archery season to a single season from Oct. 1 through the first Sunday in January;

--Allowing a crossbow to be used by any hunter during the archery season and establishes a special crossbow license;

--Adding two new licenses (a crossbow license for use in the archery season, and an urban zone license) and offering a license bundle at a reduced price that would allow one antlered deer and two antlerless deer to be taken during the special youth, archery, firearms, muzzleloader and special antlerless seasons combined.

The full text of the recommended rules package can be found in the January meeting agenda on the NRC website (www.in.gov/nrc/2350.htm). Additional information from the DNR is available on the Division of Fish and Wildlife web pages at www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/ (click on the “Rule/Regulation Changes” link in the left column).

"The Division of Fish and Wildlife recognizes that modifying regulations is only part of a larger effort that must be addressed,” said Gary Langell, private lands program manager for the Division of Fish and Wildlife. “Simply changing regulations will not achieve our objective.

“Although we continue to depend on deer hunters to help us manage our deer herd, we also believe that landowners will need to be more actively involved in providing hunter access and encouraging more intensive antlerless harvest on their properties. Likewise, urban communities will need to recognize the importance of balanced, regulated deer management."

If the NRC grants preliminary adoption at its Jan. 11 meeting, it would be only the fifth step in a 34-step checklist that can take as much as a year to complete.

A vote for preliminary adoption would be followed by a public comment period overseen by the NRC Division of Hearings. The recommended rule changes and a convenient online comment link would be posted at (www.in.gov/nrc/2377.htm). The NRC also would accept written comments mailed to Division of Hearings, Indiana Government Center North, 100 North Senate Avenue, Room N501, Indianapolis, IN, 46204-2200.

State law sets a minimum period for receiving public comments, and the period may be extended by the NRC hearing officer assigned to the topic. The hearing officer also presides over at least one public hearing and prepares a report for the NRC to use in its consideration of final adoption of the proposed rule changes.

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Other then EAB in urban zone, this sounds like a better deal to me then the last go round.
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RE: New Deer Proposals

Postby hunter480 » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:44 pm

I had thought the archery season was already just one long season, but maybe not.
 
This is a lot better than the proposals before, and just as an aside, there`s only one reason there could ever have been talk of shortening the firearms and muzzleloader seasons....to appease the trophy guys.....
 
I`ll contact the commission and voice my approval with these changes.......
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RE: New Deer Proposals

Postby Bryan78 » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:55 pm

Archery season ended the same day as the Firearm season then started back up when Muzzleloader season started hence the terms "Early and Late" Archery seasons.

With the new proposals, you could the hunt the five days between Firearms and Muzzleloader seasons that you can't do now.

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RE: New Deer Proposals

Postby PastorZig » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:12 pm

I believe that I can handle these proposals; although, the extended late season for doe could be bad at times. For instance, I shot what I thought was a big doe right before dark on Jan 1 of this year, only to find out it was a buck with scabbed pedicles and then I skinned the jaw bone and realized he was old...3 1/2 teeth left on the front and his molars were nearly flat!
Also, if the changes do not reflect the DNR's desire to increase revenue, then why not bring back the life-time licenses, at least offer them a day or two a year or every other year. I have mine but I'd sure like to get it for my son.

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RE: New Deer Proposals

Postby Bryan78 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:04 pm

I highly doubt you will ever see Lifetime Licenses being sold here again. There is a bill in the General Assembly right now concerning high fenced facilities and there was language pertaining Lifetime Licenses being re-issued.

The thing is, the state lost a ton of money with that program and the DNR doesn't want it back. When I bought mine after the last rate hike I calculated that I had to hunt and fish for 5 1/2 years to pay for itself. Now the state "pays me" to hunt and I am not out anything if I don't get a deer.

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RE: New Deer Proposals

Postby PastorZig » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:19 pm

I know what you mean, mine paid for itself in 4 years with the amount of deer and turkey that I shot. But there aren't alot of people who have lifetime licenses that I know that shoot that many deer. I'd still like to get one for my son, but what I was trying to say was the the DNR keep saying that their proposed changes have nothing to do with an attempt to increase revenue but that WAS the bottom line to stop the lifetime sales!!

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RE: New Deer Proposals

Postby trapperDave » Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:46 pm

absolutely that was the reason to drop them. The state lost out BIG tIME on revenue, revenue needed to fund dnr projects, expand hunter opportunity, run the business on a day to day business. LT lisence with no hunting seasons would be worthless. I would however love to see them raffle off a LT every year to raise money for future projects. say $5 a ticket.
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RE: New Deer Proposals

Postby trapperDave » Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:51 pm

hey bryan, you ever make it onto HH?
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RE: New Deer Proposals

Postby PastorZig » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:36 pm

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absolutely that was the reason to drop them. The state lost out BIG tIME on revenue, revenue needed to fund dnr projects, expand hunter opportunity, run the business on a day to day business. LT lisence with no hunting seasons would be worthless. I would however love to see them raffle off a LT every year to raise money for future projects. say $5 a ticket.


Sound like you might be pro-big Gov't!! Give the government a $1 and only $.50 makes it to the 'project'?!?!?! Expand hunter opportunity? Right!! I'm a sceptic of the value of government's involvement in much of anything! But, you did make my point in my post on the 14th, the DNR keeps saying that their proposals have nothing to do with increasing the revenue, but the truth is exactly what you said....it was the reason, it continues to be the reason!!!!! Oh well......

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RE: New Deer Proposals

Postby Bryan78 » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:12 am

ORIGINAL: trapperDave

hey bryan, you ever make it onto HH?



No. Joe started an account on AntlerTalk.com and I sent him a pm and he came back and said they couldn't find any registration for me over there but yet I have one because it says my e-mail is already being used.

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