jonny5buck wrote:Ohio farms wrote:No, my father used to empty his ash tray out the window of his car. My uncle Ed, who lived upstairs and was a hunter/fisherman, taught me about being a responsible person and a stewart of the outdoors. I remember the motto of leaving things cleaner than they were before you got there. I would think that we all are of that thinking.
How could you truly love the outdoors and then turn around and throw trash on the ground. Don't get me started on fisherman.
Im in close to the same boat...minus the uncle part...
I remember dad telling us to sink our pop cans when we were young...maybe 10 12 yrs old....he had us believing we were doing good because they made ''crayfish homes''......as i grew up... i realized that those cans are prob. still there....aluminum doesn't rust and the crayfish had homes before we got there!!!....i have laso chewed him a new one when i seen a pair of those orange gutting gloves by where he hunts...no excuse for that.....i either put them in the chest cavity of the deer i get ......[never had them''fall out''] ever...or i take ziploc with wipes in it after gutting i throw the gloves in there and place in my waist pouch....
I really hate littering...99% it is simply laziness or habit...i hear ya on the fisherman ..Ohio farms....i have picked up countless empty styrofoam worm containers and ...i have always put my line i cut in MY POCKET.....thank goodness for good examples of outdoors people....i try to pay it forward also...it's worse when its a state park with garbage cans.......i do believe in the motto...'''take only memories.....leave only footprints''....this is a great thread....a large part of being an ''outdoorsman...or outdoors''women''....is packing out what we take in....Peace!
Would you call it littering or dumping to toss used Christmas tree in ponds? It is done to promote cover for small fish, so they have a better shot at becoming big fish. As a kid, i remember hearing that they were trying to promote crayfish growth. I don't know why. But I do remember hearing about it. Crayfish like just about anything with one small entrance. I knew a kid who fished for crayfish with large caliber brass shells (ammo) with a fishing line attached to a drilled hole at the rim. It worked very well! He had about a dozen of them and he would catch alot of crayfish. I don't recall the source of the idea about pop cans, but it seemed to be common knowledge. I was living in Indianapolis, Indiana at the time. roughly 40 years ago. Cans, for the most part, were made of tin then, with a seam up the side, and they did rust away.EDIT":The final version of this can made it's appearance in 1967. It was Coke's first effort at using an all aluminum design. This can is easily distinguished from its predecessor due to the indented ridge at the top lid and the curved aluminum shape at the base with no true bottom lid. In addition, the All Aluminum statement is made on the bottom of the can. A second and more common all aluminum can quickly made it's debute, but this time the all aluminum statement was on the side of the can." I would have been 4 when this can was produced. Tin would still have been in common usage for a few more years.They still had pull tabs for several more years. (it used to be a fad to collect beer cans. I always preferred pop cans. I ran across a mountain dew can a short while ago with a hillbilly kicking back against a tree with a stalk of grass in his teeth, and a mountain dew.(all tin)).Ohio farms wrote:Not sure how the sinking of aluminum cans could be a conservation technique. I would think it was more on the line of "out of sight, out of mind". Or you might just call it littering.
Ohio farms wrote:A christmas tree will break down in time, an aluminum can will be there forever. Even with a christmas tree you need permission to sink it in public water. Try sinking a can in front of a game warden sometime. It's littering plain and simple.
FYI. I checked on ASK.COM:
Tin can will dissolve in 80-100 years
Aluminum can 200-500
I guess your tin can crayfish homes are still there.
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