Indiana Hunting Rifle Cartridge Change

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Indiana Hunting Rifle Cartridge Change

Postby HOLY LAND » Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:05 am

Indiana Hunting Regulations can be frustrating at times when you want to go hunting with a more common rifle caliber. I want to have the law updated so we can use a broader range of calibers.

Hunting white tail deer all 30 caliber rifles should be legalized in Indiana. These modern 30 caliber cartridges are used nationwide year round for hunting, target practice and other activities. People are limited on how they are able to hunt with the way the law is now; we are not able to used our Grandpa’s old 3030 rifle or any other modern rifle because of the current law. 30 caliber riffles are used in a lot of states for hunting deer and I believe Indiana should allow us to have the same option. I feel it’s a shame that many people who move to Indiana and have more common caliber rifles are forbidden to use them for hunting and can only find themselves with the choice of shots guns or the limited selection listed in the DNR book.

It can cost more than most people have to build a gun around the offered legal calibers. One gentleman said, “My dad has hunted with a shotgun his whole life, and the recoil is getting painful in his older age. I would love to let him borrow my rifle that has much less recoil, because I am not able to afford to buy him a new one that happens to fit inside Indiana’s narrow caliber rules”. Indiana ground isn’t flat like a lot of people say, we have hills which would be backstops for the bullets and people in tree stands don’t fire up in the air and their backstop is the ground. Hunters on the ground position themselves near a deer trail so that they can find a deer in a controlled space so when they shoot they have a backstop so the bullet will be limited on travel and won’t hit anyone. As far as the arguments against using modern cartridges, any bullet is lethal. If a hunter is shooting without being certain they have an effective backstop then they are willing to risk of someone's life for a deer. Hunter education should cover these safety issues.

My argument for legalizing modern rifle calibers would be:

*Greater accuracy so you will have a cleaner kill. The animal will suffer less, and you will have less wounded deers running away only to have the hunter not retrieve the injured deer and shoot another. The hunter would have more control of his shot placement limiting damage to the deer’s vital organs.

*More people own the more common calibers, so you may have more people take up an interest in hunting, selling more licenses and rifles in Indiana increasing Indiana's revenue.

*Hunters from out of state can hunt here since the rifle's they already own can be used also increasing Indiana's revenue by selling the higher priced out of state licenses.

*Most modern rifle calibers have lower recoil than a shotgun, allowing older hunters to hunt longer. It may also reduce injuries of people falling out of stands due to the heavier recoil knocking them off balance in a tree stand.

Please sign my petition. If you have any suggestions please feel free to comment in the forum’s thread. Thank you.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/indiana-hunting-rifle-cartridge-change/

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Re: Indiana Hunting Rifle Cartridge Change

Postby shaman » Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:21 am

Oh, heck! You just got started on reasons.

For one thing, there is no study after all these years that shows a relation between morbidity (death and injury) and the type of weapon used.

For another, there ARE studies that bigger, heavier slugs travel farther in the woods. The smaller, faster rifle bullets are less stable after passing through a deer or striking limbs and such.

With the advent of mandatory Hunter Ed, the morbidity plummeted, and it's stayed there for a generation, proving it wasn't what was being carried, but rather what was between the ears of the hunter.


I think it is ironic that here comes you asking for support for relaxing the rifle ammo restrictions and Andy was on here just a day or so ago asking to have firearm seasons restricted further. Both of you are Hoosiers. What's up with that?

I'm all for what you're selling. One of these days I pray that both IN and OH wise up and adopt a centerfire rifle policy like KY and allow any centerfire rifle cartridge.
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Re: Indiana Hunting Rifle Cartridge Change

Postby shaman » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:56 am

I was thinking about this again and I figured I'd hand you some more spitballs.

1) Why is it a 458 SOCOM is legal in IN and not a 30-30? You can make up a 100 such comparisons. They point is the current restrictions are rather arbitrary
2) What makes a 30-06 safe on a groundhog in July but unsafe for deer in November?
3) Compare and contrast the morbidity statistics between KY ( which allows all centerfire rifles) versus IN which picks and chooses. What is the actual effect on human safety? Why are KY hunters apparently so much safer and why are Hoosiers, if restrictions were lifted, doomed to face a great circular firing squad in the woods?
4) Why is IN considered an also-ran in terms of big bucks when neighboring OH, KY, and IL are considered hotspots?
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