I wasn't trying to attack anyone, and I'm sorry if that's how it came off. I was just trying to be sarcastic. (I'll go back and add some smiley faces... [:o] [X(] [:D] )
I just think you guys are missing the point.
Maybe I misunderstood it, but the question that started this all, asked - "wondering what you consider baiting?" Not, what is illegal or unethical, or what you do or not do. Not what the state DNR should ban or if we consider food plots baiting then they will ban them.
Just "What is baiting?"
I think because it is the word "BAIT" or "BAITING" it pulls out a negative response in people. Maybe because states have banned some types of baiting and hunters don't want to feel like they are breaking any rules... I don't know. Maybe we should start another thread that asks "What do you consider luring?
I think, (again MY opinion) if you put something, anything, into the woods, (and it would not be there if it weren't for you), in order to bring deer in, you are baiting. Call it luring, attracting, baiting, or whatever you want to call it. But we do these things for one purpose, to bring and keep deer on the land we want to hunt. Keep in mind, I am FOR baiting or luring!!!
The main point of my baiting definition, is the INTENT of the hunter to alter the landscape or surroundings in order to draw more deer into the area!
A farmer doesn't plant his fields to attract deer. So that is not baiting. But, if you pay the farmer to not harvest a section of the field so the deer will come there to eat, then that is baiting. (Again, I'm not talking legally, just by the definition)
If a doe comes by and pees on the ground, that is not baiting. But if you spray store bought doe pee around for the purpose of attracting a buck, then that is baiting.
If deer come and eat natural forest plants and you shoot them while doing so, not baiting. But if you spend time and money planting a nice food plot so that deer will come onto your land, at whatever time, then that is baiting.
If a buck sees a doe in woods and chases her, the doe is not baiting. But if you put out a doe decoy, some doe pee, and use your can call so the buck will come into your shooting lane to check it out, then that is baiting.
If a buck makes a scrape, and you hunt over it, it is not baiting. But if you make a scrape and pour store bought buck pee in it (or pee in it yourself), now it is baiting.
I could keep going but I think I've made my point. As I said in my first post - "There are different degrees and different types of baiting". I will agree with you guys, that having a spin timer feeder, feeding the deer only at certain times of the day so you pattern the deer is DEFINITELY baiting. But so is the food plot that the deer come to every night right before sunset.
I think I have explained my views as best I could. And again I apologize if I came off like I was attacking someone. [&:] EatDeer and I definitely have different opinions on a lot of issues, but that is what makes America great. We can believe what we want and nobody can make us think different. I respect that he has different views than I do.
Good luck hunting - with or without bait!!! [:D]
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