I am also done with this redundant disscussion, as far as it pertains to dog's and 950 yard shots.
Good. Here's my parting shot then...
Great discussions? You telling me and all my houndsmen brethren that we are unethical, not hunters and hurting hunting? Yeah, great discussion topic. Why dont I just insult your wife and call yer kid ugly and retarded and see how that "discussion" goes lol
No, I didnt say "road hunting" I said "close to the road", in fact I said it twice.
I'll tell ya right now it is people exactly like you that hurt hunting. For some reason you think bending over every time some tofu eating moron whines a little is the way to the future. It's like that nasty "prevent defense" nonsense in football - One major difference tho... there is no time limit in the game we're playin in; keep giving them the short pass and eventually they'll win.
There is no higher ethical ground that killing your own meat during a hunting season. None. And what makes it "right" is doing it humanely and within the law.
I'm a Montanan by birth and upbringing. We used to get loads of doe muley and lope tags and then we'd go put our grubstake up for the year. We went out and killed most of them in the easiest [legal] way possible. So what? It's a controlled hunt, they're management critters, we used legal methods, its not hurting the resource, its helping the resource!.... We're meat hunters first. Ethically killing animals to eat.
The general public has more disdain for "trophy" hunting than it does for meat hunters, btw. A WDFW survey showed that very clearly. Go figger.
Odd. Stickbow shooters will say compounds are unethical, compound shooters will say crossbows arent ethical, many of them will say modern firearm hunters are "slaughters"... I even know pointing dog enthusiasts that look down their noses at houndsmen. This when its more of a sure thing to blast a pheasant on the rise than attempt to catch a bear with hounds. And I know lots of hunters who say trapping is unethical when they dont know the first thing about trapping! Unbelievable.
Ya see, I've been dealing with misdirected folks like you for well over a decade now. Somehow people like you who haven't done a single day of public outreach, never been involved in a political campaign when hunting was under attack, never owned or trained a hound (let alone hunted behind them) somehow know exactly what hunting is, what the public thinks and what it takes to preserve the activity. Nonsense.
The truth is, the antis are leading you around like a bull with a ring in its nose. They say "this" method is bad and you agree, they say its all about
giving the game a sporting chance and you say, "I know it is! But those degenerate houndsmen wont listen" (Of course they say that in the morning and in the afternoon they call it all
I'm going to let you in on a little secret... THEY DONT LIKE ANY HUNTING. IT IS ALL EQUALLY BAD TO THEM. THEY'RE PLAN IS TO INCREMENTALLY KILL IT ALL.
I'll tell you the cold hard truth. You make me sick. To think I could spend 40 years in the field without so much as a warning for violating a law while hunting with virtually every method available and spend 1000's of hours promoting and teaching about the hunting conservationist and have your tell me I'm a slob hunter and helping the antis.
I kill my own meat and do it more humanely and with more thought, care and reverence than any and every example in nature - I am more respectful of animals than the millions of people who callously toss half a burger in the trash or line up at the supermarket butcher section without so much as a thought about what it took to get that meat to their denial filled hands.
I can (and have) stood toe to toe with the non-hunting public and explained this to them and guess what? They get it. You wont find me hiding from the truth, you'll find me teaching it. Thats what we need, more teachers, not high and mighty appeasers ready to toss other methods under the bus just because they dont like or understand them. And like I said, that's a losing strategy. Period.
You dont have to like or enjoy every method out there. But when it comes to "hurting hunting by posting on the internet" you should really take a cold hard look at the crack YOU create with this nonsense giving the HSUS et al the op to drive a great big ugly political wedge into.
United we stand, divided we fall.