JPH wrote:Laws passed via constitutional means? That's the way this works.
I know I am in favor of laws that reflect my religious beliefs. I'd like to see an end to abortion and I'd like to stop Obamacare because of the demands that all healthcare providers pay for birth control. Secular people certainly advance their values within the law. Why should Muslums be denied the same consideration?
And back to the previous point. What are the immigrants stealing? Our air? Our sense of superiority? They aren't stealing from me.
Well first off, let's establish one CLEAR point......I'm NOT talking about immigrants. We all came from immigrants. The point here is those who chose to come here ILLEGALLY . An "illegal" immigrant. I know you don't like that term, but if you break the law to come here then that's what you are regardless of motive. That's like lumping all hunters as poachers (illegal hunters). The fact that someone is not from here is of no matter. It's when they break the law that is the issue. The poaching issue that we beat to death here a while ago is VERY similar to the connection you are making.
One of the things that we stand for here is religious freedom in terms of what the government can and cannot restrict. What somone chooses to do voluntarily is between them and God. I, like you, believe wholeheartedly that abortion is flat out WRONG, and that I certainly DO NOT want any part of my tax money going to pay for it. Yes, that is a religious tenent. We can't get away from that, as basic CHRISTIAN principles are what this country was founded on. There will, and HAS TO be some sort of moral yardstick that we govern ourselves by. And in the USA, it is based on the Bible and NOT the Koran. I for one do not want to live in a place where the laws of the land are based on the Koran. I can move to some country stuck in the middle ages to do that.
So if you think that a human being cannot be "illegal", then what do we do? Eliminate the border entirely? Everyone comes and goes as the see fit? Why have any country at all then?