Why is gun bill 2099 in health care bill

Off Topic is the place for anything that doesn't quite fit into the other categories.
Posts: 5
Joined: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:23 am

Why is gun bill 2099 in health care bill

Postby backstrapcrazy » Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:35 am

I was told today that the GB-2099 (By the way,This not a hoax) It is in the health care bill.
What does this have to do with health care?

User avatar
Woods Walker
Posts: 4970
Joined: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:21 am
Location: Northern Illinois

RE: Why is gun bill 2099 in health care bill

Postby Woods Walker » Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:59 pm

It's because although Obama campaigned on the promise of "transparency" if elected, he's actually done the exact opposite.
 The health care bill itself and all that's in it is purposely being hidden from public view as much as possible so that they can railroad it through. A provision to have the final version (we STILL don't know all that's in it) available for public scrutiny for a mere 72 hours before it's voted on was asked for by the opposition, and was DENIED by the Democrat majority. A new bureaucracy that is going to account for 1/6 of the GNP, and we can't even have a look at it for 72 hours before they vote on it??????
Obviously they are trying to hide something, and "pull a fast one". Adding a gun control bill fits right into their modus operandi.
One party rule is a bad to way to run this country.
And BTW....ultimately this has less to do with health care, and more to do with POWER, and growing the inefficiency of big government at the expense of the American people, through less freedom, and more direct control of the individual's money. The enforcement arm of the health care bill that was in the House bill is the IRS, and in the bill are provisions for the IRS to have direct acces to anyone's bank account if they think you need to pay into the government run system.
Welcome to hell..............
Hunt Hard,

Kill Swiftly,

Waste Nothing,

Offer No Apologies.....

NRA Endowment Life Member

User avatar
Posts: 17
Joined: Mon May 12, 2008 2:41 am

RE: Why is gun bill 2099 in health care bill

Postby Hawgnman » Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:22 pm

Can't find GB2099 any where with a goggle search.
Grace Happens

Jim /*

Posts: 77
Joined: Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:53 am

RE: Why is gun bill 2099 in health care bill

Postby tjmeyers » Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:00 pm

1. snopes.com: Handgun Safety and Registration Act [color="red"] ••• [/color]
[size="-1"] [color="#0000aa"]Would a pending Senate bill require that all handgun owners list their guns on federal income tax returns?[/color]
  ...Claim: A bill currently before Congress would require that all handgun owners list their guns on federal income tax returns. Example: [Collected via...
  ...Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal tax form all guns that you have or own. It may require fingerprints and a tax of $50 per...
  ...This bill was introduced on Feb. 24. This bill will become public knowledge 30 days after it is voted into law. This is an amendment to the Internal...
Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:38:04 GMT http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/taxreturns.asp [/size]

Posts: 1
Joined: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:52 am

RE: Why is gun bill 2099 in health care bill

Postby Ogre2009 » Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:29 am

There is no such thing as GB2099. It is SB2099, and it was proposed by Sen Jack Reed (D-RI) on 2/24/00.

The tax in question would have been imposed upon the manufacturer, not the owner. There was never an annual federal income tax clause contained in this legislation. 

It did require that handguns be registered with the Feds, but not hunting rifles or shotguns. It required a Federal permit to own a machine gun, saw-off rifle or shot gun, and silencers.

Besides being an obvious violation of the 2nd Amendment, it also placed an onerous paperwork burden on local/federal law enforcement agencies, so it was never passed. In fact, it died without ever getting even a subcommittee hearing. However, it has been kept alive as an urban legend or bogeyman story by those who wish to co-opt this failed legislation for their own political objectives.

Arm yourselves with knowledge. It took me 10 minutes to research this bit of fiction and determine that SB2099 (SB stands for Senate Bill) was indeed proposed, but calmer heads prevailed and killed it - very early in its life cycle. So why, then, is it now being tied into the healthcare reform debate/fiasco? If you want to see how the sausage is made, then follow the money trail and ask who profits by bringing SB2099 back to life - even if it is only to use as a bogeyman on healthcare legislation.

If you fear losing your 2nd Amendment rights from the loopy left, maybe you should have as much fear from the loopy right who promote such falsehoods to support their opposition to whatever it is they are opposing. Be it the right or left, if they are successful at using a lie or a false fear tactic on one issue, they will do it again and again on any other issues that they see fit. We get the shaft, but their masters give them the gold for selling us out.

Return to Off Topic

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests