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RE: Deep Question

Postby Woods Walker » Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:42 am

ORIGINAL: smitty

I do think animals go to the "other-side."  At first I was thinking about deer and bears but then I stated to think about our dogs and various other pets.  They are animals to.  The Creator created animals and they got the pretty important job of sustaining us,  I just can't see why they would then be cast away.

That's not to say I would like to eat my dog but I would like to try chicken lips [:D] 

 

An old man and his dog were walking down this dirt
road with fences on both sides, they came to a gate
in the fence and looked in, it was nice - grassy,
woody areas, just what a 'huntin' dog and man would
like, but, it had a sign saying 'no trespassing' so
they walked on.

They came to a beautiful gate with a person in white
robes standing there. "Welcome to Heaven"
he said. The old man was happy and started in with his
dog following him.

The gatekeeper stopped him. "Dogs aren't allowed,
I'm sorry but he can't come with you." "What
kind of Heaven won't allow dogs? If He can't come in,
then I will stay out with him. He's been my faithful
companion all his life, I can't desert him now.

" "Suit yourself, but I have to warn you,
the Devil's on this road and he'll try to sweet talk you
into his area, he'll promise you anything, but, the dog can't
go there either. If you won't leave the dog, you'll
spend Eternity on this road " So the old man and
dog went on.

 
They came to a rundown fence with a gap in it, no gate,
just a hole. Another old man was inside. "Scuse me Sir,
my dog and I are getting mighty tired, mind if we come in
and sit in the shade for awhile?" "Of course, there's
some cold water under that tree over there. Make yourselves
comfortable " "You're sure my dog can come in?
The man down the road said dogs weren't allowed
anywhere." "Would you come in if you had to leave
the dog?" " No sir, that's why I didn't go to
Heaven, he said the dog couldn't come in. We'll be spending
Eternity on this road, and a glass of cold water and some
shade would be mighty fine right about now. But, I won't
come in if my buddy here can't come too,
and that's final. "

 
The man smiled a big smile and said "Welcome to Heaven."
"You mean this is Heaven? Dogs ARE allowed? How come that
fellow down the road said they weren't?" "That was the
Devil and he gets all the people who are willing to give up a life
long companion for a comfortable place to stay.
They soon find out their mistake, but, then it's too late.
The dogs come here, the fickle people stay there.

GOD wouldn't allow dogs to be banned from Heaven. After all,
HE created them to be man's companions in life, why would he
separate them in death?"


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RE: Deep Question

Postby buckfarmdude » Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:49 am

Personally, I don't think animals have souls or spirits. God created man with those, and that is why we are above the animals.
Just my thought on the subject.
Psalm 42:1 "As the deer pants for the water brooks, So my soul pants for Thee O God."

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RE: Deep Question

Postby ranwin33 » Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:00 am

ORIGINAL: JPH

Either way, what I was intending to ask is, "Do you believe that animals have an entity that endures after natural death?" Call it what you will.


Nope - but I pretty much feel the same goes for people.
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RE: Deep Question

Postby mightyfofaad » Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:52 am

ORIGINAL: Woods Walker

ORIGINAL: Floating Debris

And although they must have them, because I've eaten them dunked in BBQ sauce, I've never found a chicken's fingers

ORIGINAL: Woods Walker

All this deep thought has got me thinking.......
 
Does a chicken have lips? And if it did, why would it need them?



And what about the "nuggets"?  I've butchered a lot of chickens and pheasants in my time, and never yet have I encountered a nugget........or a "stick" from a fish, either.
 
This is making my brain hurt......[:D]

Silly boy ... you don't get nuggets from a chicken ... you get them from a Rooster[8D]

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RE: Deep Question

Postby Ifishandhunt » Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:39 pm

LOL... This is why I decided to join D&DH forums. Serious discussions and good deer camp fun! I had to laugh at your posts WW and Mightyfo, they cracked me up. My wife was wondering why I was laughing too. [:)] I can always look forward to reading forums on D&DH and find an outlet that helps shrug off the stresses of the daily grind. Thanks guys and gals!

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RE: Deep Question

Postby nhdeerchaser » Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:16 pm

That is an interesting question, Joe.
I don't know. I would like to hope that when I move on to the next life, I will see my beloved cat Zeus that I had for 11 years, and had to put down last year.
Regarding wild animals, I do agree they posess a spirit, but I don't know about a soul. However, that would contradict my feelings regarding my pet, so I guess I'm right back where I started, not knowing anything, but hoping that they do.
It would make heaven a beautiful place if deer and turkey's and all other animals made my our God were there, and a beautiful brown and white cat came running to meet me.

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RE: Deep Question

Postby mightyfofaad » Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:24 pm

ORIGINAL: Ifishandhunt

LOL... This is why I decided to join D&DH forums. Serious discussions and good deer camp fun! I had to laugh at your posts WW and Mightyfo, they cracked me up. My wife was wondering why I was laughing too. [:)] I can always look forward to reading forums on D&DH and find an outlet that helps shrug off the stresses of the daily grind. Thanks guys and gals!



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RE: Deep Question

Postby DoeEyed » Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:45 pm

Yes, I do believe animals possess a soul.

I know that I will not explain this right but I'll try anyway.

I think that animals like humans all have their own personalities that make them unique one from the other. And that personality is connected to their soul. If they lose their soul they are just a body. The soul gives the body life, animation.

We put our cat down last week. When the vet euthanised her and that moment came when her eyes went blank and her tongue came out I thought, That is not my cat. There is her body but what made her "Maggie" was no longer there. Her spirit was gone.

So, spirit or soul, whatever you want to call it I think all God's creatures possess one. 
 
Look into your pet's eyes and tell me that they don't. I won't believe it. The soul of an animal is more pure than a humans.
All I have seen teaches me to trust the Creator for all I have not seen ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson

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RE: Deep Question

Postby nhdeerchaser » Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:18 pm

ORIGINAL: DoeEyed

Yes, I do believe animals possess a soul.

I know that I will not explain this right but I'll try anyway.

I think that animals like humans all have their own personalities that make them unique one from the other. And that personality is connected to their soul. If they lose their soul they are just a body. The soul gives the body life, animation.

We put our cat down last week. When the vet euthanised her and that moment came when her eyes went blank and her tongue came out I thought, That is not my cat. There is her body but what made her "Maggie" was no longer there. Her spirit was gone.

So, spirit or soul, whatever you want to call it I think all God's creatures possess one. 

Look into your pet's eyes and tell me that they don't. I won't believe it. The soul of an animal is more pure than a humans.

Very well said Holly. I'm sorry for your loss. I know how you feel.

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RE: Deep Question

Postby msbadger » Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:01 am

Sorry for your loss Holy and thanks for summing up what I feel as well...well said[;)]

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