"Gun Went Off While Cleaning It..."

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RE: "Gun Went Off While Cleaning It..."

Postby dewey » Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:01 am

Stupid is as stupid does!
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Postby Ohio farms » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:01 pm

Hey Woods, I was looking through old posts and I noticed this one. Also noticed that ALL your responses were deleted. I'm were you bad?
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Postby Woods Walker » Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:36 pm

No, not at all. When they changed over to the new format most all of my old posts were zapped. Too bad they can't do that with the spam Jihad that's attacking the site on a weekly basis!

I wish I could remember what I said in my opening post, but it went along the lines of if someone is cleaning a gun and it accidently goes off, then the person is question is one or all of the following:

1. A complete novice who should still be under supervision.

2. A complete moron.

3. All of the above.

I say this because I've been handling firearms since I was 12, and what was literally DRUMMED into me by the people that taught me as the first 2 things that I needed to know about firearms was.....NEVER point that muzzle at anything or anyone that I didn't intend to shoot, and ALWAYS, repeat ALWAYS check the action on a firearm before you do anything with it, even if it were just handed to you by someone who just checked it. These are lifelong habits that are now part of my DNA, and I cannot concieve of anyone cleaning any firearm without checking the action or clip SEVERAL times before starting the cleaning process.

Unless, of course, someone was "accidentally" shot, and then it may very well be NOT an accident!
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Postby Deebz » Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:24 pm

hadn't seen this post before, but along the lines of what I was taught about gun safety is to always treat every gun as if it was loaded... know where the barrel is pointing, and never allow a gun barrel to point at anything that you won't feel good about killing... (or at least ok, as i can't say i'd feel good about killing a person who was trying to harm myself or my family, but i'd feel ok about it)

I actually know 2 people who've been shot in the head "accidentally". One was a guy i played slow pitch softball with. His college roommate was in a Police Academy program, was cleaning his 9mm, and it went off. The bullet entered the skull above his eye, traveled around the curve of the skull between bone and brain, then exited... the guy has only superficial scars to show for it, total recovery.

the other was my cousin, his gang-banger buddy was playing with a piece of crap hand-me down saturday night special... we'll never know the true story, but apparently the gun accidentally went off and shot my cousin in the head. He didn't make it.

in both cases, loaded or unloaded, if the guns had been pointed in a safe direction, a new pair of underwear is most likely the worst outcome
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Postby Ohio farms » Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:35 pm

Woods, I was hoping that your comments were banned and you would come clean here.
It was drummed into my head by my uncle that all guns are loaded until you personally check to see that they are not. It could save your life one day.
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Postby kellory » Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:09 pm

With us we never even handed a gun to someone unless the action was open, and the weapon had been checked for ammo. My brother got caught telling about seeing trasspassers through his scope, and it cost him a whipping for pointing a gun at people. He was about 15 or 16 at the time, and the lesson went home. That is what binos are for!
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Postby bobow » Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:10 pm

Woods Walker wrote:No, not at all. When they changed over to the new format most all of my old posts were zapped. Too bad they can't do that with the spam Jihad that's attacking the site on a weekly basis!


I have found out that if you hit "quote", you can see what WW is saying as in you want to reply. On my browser it is all X'd out or whatever. As Artie Johnson used to say: very interesting (with the German accent) :D
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Postby Woods Walker » Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:11 pm

bobow: I owe you one! Thanks for that tip! I went back and tried that, and that's the gist of what I posted today.

I also have another take on this. Ever notice that the headlines always say that the GUN accidently went off? That's amazing, because the last I checked, guns don't have, and have never had a mind or will of their own. You can lay a loaded gun on a table, and it will remain unfired for eternity. It cannot shoot itself. The only thing that can cause a loaded gun to fire (or even BECOME loaded in the first place) is a human being.

So what the headlines ought to read, is that a CARELESS PERSON accidently discharged a firearm and shot another person (or himself).

Stupid is, as stupid does.
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Postby kellory » Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:31 pm

Woods Walker wrote:bobow: I owe you one! Thanks for that tip! I went back and tried that, and that's the gist of what I posted today.

I also have another take on this. Ever notice that the headlines always say that the GUN accidently went off? That's amazing, because the last I checked, guns don't have, and have never had a mind or will of their own. You can lay a loaded gun on a table, and it will remain unfired for eternity. It cannot shoot itself. The only thing that can cause a loaded gun to fire (or even BECOME loaded in the first place) is a human being.

So what the headlines ought to read, is that a CARELESS PERSON accidently discharged a firearm and shot another person (or himself).

Stupid is, as stupid does.

When guns hang out with SUV's things have been known to happen, like slow speed pursuits, and massive shootouts where no one gets shot, and roll overs! SUV's have even been know to flee from the police while shooting! I think it's bad companions! :lol:
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Postby Deebz » Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:33 pm

Woods Walker wrote:So what the headlines ought to read, is that a CARELESS PERSON accidently discharged a firearm and shot another person (or himself).


in other words, Guns don't kill people, people kill people...
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