Is this believable ?

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RE: Is this believable ?

Postby vipermann7 » Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:21 pm

i also wanted to add...

if you look at the third picture, look at where the bow is laying on the deer. the deer's back is going straight when it hits the bow, but after the bow, check out the deer's back line again. it drops way down. looks like the ass-end of the deer was cut and dragged to make it look longer in that picture. i didnt really notice until all of you were pointing out how fake it looked, then i went back and checked it out closer. the deer may be real, but these pictures dont look it.

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RE: Is this believable ?

Postby buckhunter21 » Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:00 am

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Patriot,

I don't know who these people are photoshopping the photo, you clearly shot that deer, I was there![:D]


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Hilarious...LMAO!!!!!  [:D]
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Postby passin through » Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:25 pm

Finally found that North American Whitetail issue...July 2008.  Here is the Low Down:
This info is taken from a North American Whitetail exclusive article written by Duncan Dobie

Buck Killed in NE Nebraska on a 120,000 acre Indian reservation in 2005

He was recovered the morning after

He was tape weighed by two Indian reservation Game Wardens for the reservation books.  He may have been actually put up on real scales by them, but the hunter did not witness that as he was doing paper work for the Reservation log book.  In either case the official weight went on the reservation log book as 412lbs. (this is the weight the Wardens recorded)

Hunters name is Stan Whitt of Harrisburg AR
He was there with some other guys trying to fill a tag on a P&Y deer in 2005 when he killed this deer. (who scored abt 130")

Tape weighing is a common place and highly accurate method of weighing animals and estimating edible meat on an animal. 
This info and more comes from Leonard Lee Rue III in his book "The Deer of North America"---- there is a whole chapter devoted to Deer weights and he is quoted often in the article. 

The current World Record Whitetail by weight is 511lbs live weight / 402 field dressed killed in 1926 by C.J. Lenander Jr.  in Tofte MN.  The last certified big buck to make the article's list of other heavy weights was killed in 1972 by Boyd Jones in Worth County GA.  This Southern deer weighed in at 443 live and 355 field dressed.  (again this from Lee Rue's book)

Anyways this was bugging me so I had to go rummaging around the deerstands till I found which one I left the mag in....

As for Stan Whitt, the hunter here ...Rumors have been flying since 2005 about picture doctoring and such...he makes no claims other than the deer was what it was and thats it.  He acknowledges that he is a supremely blessed hunter and that his lifetimes dream to kill a buck whose rack stuck out above the bed of a truck was surpassed by this buck whose hindquarters actually showed above the rails.

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RE: Is this believable ?

Postby Patriot » Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:11 pm

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Patriot,

I don't know who these people are photoshopping the photo, you clearly shot that deer, I was there![:D]


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Ahhhh! Hey reeper0697.....the secret is out!
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RE: Is this believable ?

Postby fasteddie » Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:42 pm

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Finally found that North American Whitetail issue...July 2008.  Here is the Low Down:
This info is taken from a North American Whitetail exclusive article written by Duncan Dobie
Buck Killed in NE Nebraska on a 120,000 acre Indian reservation in 2005
He was recovered the morning after
He was tape weighed by two Indian reservation Game Wardens for the reservation books.  He may have been actually put up on real scales by them, but the hunter did not witness that as he was doing paper work for the Reservation log book.  In either case the official weight went on the reservation log book as 412lbs. (this is the weight the Wardens recorded)
Hunters name is Stan Whitt of Harrisburg AR
He was there with some other guys trying to fill a tag on a P&Y deer in 2005 when he killed this deer. (who scored abt 130")

 
That's what I said in the post on the 1st page . The link is there ...........
 
412-Pound Deer Killed
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Circulating via email since December 2005, these images generated a good deal of skepticism among hunters, game wardens, and even sports columnists when they first appeared online. It was originally claimed that the deer was killed somewhere in Nebraska. Later variants specified Clarion County, Pennsylvania as the actual hunting ground.

But it wasn't the locale that proved to be the biggest bone of contention -- it was the alleged weight of the buck -- 412 pounds -- a figure characterized by a deer biologist quoted in the Toledo Blade as "biologically possible" but unlikely.

Discrepancies

Not that deer weighing 400 pounds or more have never been documented -- they have, on rare occasions, just not in the state of Nebraska. Speaking to the Minneapolis Star Tribune, Nebraska Game and Parks Commission big game manager Kit Hams said he had never heard of a 300-pound whitetail deer being shot in his state, let alone a behemoth 400-pounder. He also said that to his knowledge no one had come forward to claim the kill, which struck him as suspicious.

Skeptics cited apparent discrepancies in the photos, spinning various theories as to how they might have been faked. The antler rack is too small for the body, some observed, while others noted a subtle difference between the color of the buck's head and that of its body -- both signs that the images may have been Photoshopped. Still others pointed out that the hunters appeared to have positioned themselves well back from the carcass when the photos were snapped, fudging the perspective to exaggerate the deer's size. It was also suggested that the carcass looked bloated, as if the deer had already been dead for a time before the pictures were taken.

The hunter speaks

After a few weeks of rampant speculation, Dennis Anderson of the Star Tribune finally managed to locate someone willing to take credit for the kill, an Arkansan named Stan Whitt. The deer was real, Mr. Whitt insisted. He felled it with a single arrow during a November 2005 hunting trip in Nebraska. The reason state game officials could find no record of the kill, he explained, was that it took place on an Indian reservation.

The carcass never actually made its way to the scales, Whitt admitted. With a tribal wildlife official in attendance, its weight was estimated at 412 pounds based on measurements of its girth taken with a special measuring tape. According to Whitt, the method is supposed to be accurate within a 6% margin of error.

One point of speculation was confirmed in Whitt's version of the story, namely that the carcass was swollen when the photograph was taken. The deer bolted and disappeared after it was shot, Whitt told Anderson, and its body wasn't found till the next day, by which time it was "somewhat bloated" and beginning to stink.
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RE: Is this believable ?

Postby passin through » Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:17 am

Sorry-- i just skimmed that .... I saw the "its Bogus " part and moved on.  I accept it for what it is both because who wrote the article (Duncan Dobie) and the Mag it was in. (North American Whitetail)   While I don't always agree with either this kind of article doesn't get written without some form of proof or both parties being verry certain about the facts.  (Since this kind of article can/could destroy credability --- which both have and do safe guard)  If it wern't for these two things I would have written it off as BS myself

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RE: Is this believable ?

Postby Jdbllung » Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:07 pm

I don't buy it, that photo looks doctored to me.
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