I use the 3-piece EZ holder as well. Pleny of hooks to hold your grunt tube and hang your rattlin horns and gives you alot of flexibility in terms of positioning your bow exactly where you need it. I must agree though you do need to screw it in deep in softwood trees. I usually find a nice oak or maple to crawl up in and occasionally a cedar or too, so I don't have to screw it in too deep. However, the few times I was in a pine I had to screw it in at a downward angle and very deep to get it to level out and not drop. I will not go in the woods without it and it can be useful during gun season too, not only to prop or suspend your gun, but double as a shooting or steady support as well, provided it's low enough. I'm not sure what I did before these gadgets!!![:)]
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