Hunter Arrested

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Hunter Arrested

Postby fasteddie » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:05 am

Through the window wildly
 Deer hunter's slug travels across Route 104, through four walls and a furnace at Phil's Automotive in Ontario
 Rochester man arrested, faces numerous charges
 
  It was Thursday morning and Mike Cardamone was walking through the front door of his father's business, Phil's Automotive at 1364 Route 104 in the Town of Ontario. A loud "pop" sent Mike ducking. Phil Cardamone was standing in the doorway from the front receptionist office, leading to the shop.
  After the initial shock, he discovered a hole in his store's front double pane win­dow. The two men immediately knew that a hunter's stray slug was the culprit. State Police, along with Department of Conservation Officers immediately responded. Phil followed the path of the deer slug through the receptionist's wall, back through a parts and break room to the very back of his building, a distance of about 55 feet. In all, the slug had trav­elled 285 yards, across Route 104, through the business window, four walls and through a furnace at the car repair business, before finally dropping to the floor. "It was scary", said Phil. "I'm sur­prised we found the slug." P o l i c e entered the field, north of Route 104, and discov­ered a group of hunters.
  After inform­ing them of the incident, Timothy S.
  Lewis, age 46, of Gennis Road in Rochester was arrested for the ECON offenses of Discharging a Firearm Across a Public Highway and Discharging a Firearm Within 500 Feet of a Dwelling. He was also additionally charged by State Police with Reckless Endangerment in the 2nd Degree and Criminal Mischief in the 4th Degree. Lewis was released on appearance tick­ets for Town of Ontario Court for December 10th.
  Police and Phil's Automotive employ­ees all agreed that the buck Lewis took down with the shots will be a costly one. According to State Trooper Tim Gawronski, both the highway and the Phil's Automotive building were within sight range when Lewis discharged sev­eral shots at a buck. Gawronski said that Lewis apparently had "tunnel vision" when drawing a bead on the deer, and failed to see the highway and building in the distance.
  Receptionist Trish Cymbal, who was not at her desk at the time of the incident summed her feelings up as "pissed." "He could have killed somebody," said Trish. The slug barely cleared the roofline of a customer's van parked in front of the business window.
  Phil Cardamone, a hunter himself, was shocked at the range and velocity of the ammunition Lewis had used. " I thought it had to be a rifle shot."
 
 

 

Phil Cardamone stands next to his fur­nace which the deer slug penetrated after going through three walls, then proceeding through a fourth wall.
 
 
 


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RE: Hunter Arrested

Postby WayneL » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:33 am

Was it a shotgun slug? That is unbelievable. You can never be too careful!
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RE: Hunter Arrested

Postby fasteddie » Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:29 am

No rifles allowed . I was told it was a shotgun slug . Probably a 3 1/2' magnum ---- my guess .
I called Trish at Phils' Automotive and she verified it was a shotgun slug . That's where I go for repairs . It's only 3 miles away .
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RE: Hunter Arrested

Postby Squirrelhawker » Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:33 am

I wonder if it also wasn't a trajectory laden issue too. I believe it said
shot(s) fired. Lot's of times people (often not careful people) begin firing at running deer before they aquire an adequate sight picture and thus lob slug(s) all over the place before sometimes actually hitting what they're shooting at.
 
I shoot a pretty high tech rig and 200 yards would be the extreme range for a carefully placed shot. One that I would never take under the best of circumstances. It wonders me how far away was the deer he was shooting at.
 
Every year I sit in a stand and listen to folks blasting away. I have been at this deer hunting thing awhile now and I can easily count on one hand the number of times a second shot was possible, let alone a third or fourth. So many hunters labor under the delusion that if they put enough lead in the air, a miracle will happen.

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RE: Hunter Arrested

Postby Squirrelhawker » Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:40 am

ORIGINAL: WayneL

Was it a shotgun slug? That is unbelievable. You can never be too careful!

 
 
See I believe If I shot at a deer at 200 yards with my slug gun: A) I would need to hold just below the withers, and B) within 75 yards beyond that range, the round would be well on it's way into the ground. When people start  "Hail Mary-ing" slugs at ridiculous ranges off-hand from ground level I believe that's when you get these unfortunate stories.  

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RE: Hunter Arrested

Postby WayneL » Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:02 am

That's what I was wondering. He must have been skying slugs. Unbelievable! I couldn't imagine where I would have to aim to hit something 200 yards away. Never had to shoot mine more than 50 yards.
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RE: Hunter Arrested

Postby JOEL » Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:48 pm

goes to show that whole slugs are safer than bullets theory is a bunch of BS
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RE: Hunter Arrested

Postby Squirrelhawker » Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:01 am

ORIGINAL: JOEL

goes to show that whole slugs are safer than bullets theory is a bunch of BS

 
Oh no question there. My slug gun and many others are essentially large bore rifles.

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RE: Hunter Arrested

Postby vipertech » Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:47 am

That's not very far from where I live!  

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RE: Hunter Arrested

Postby msbadger » Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:15 pm

Sunday all hay broke loose on our hill ...not too very far from you freddie....gut pile found on neighbors next door...sheriff and DEC came out (one of their good ECO's) ....it took 2 12ga. at 20yrds and 1 20ga at point blank for the yahoos to kill a fawn!...We all know what group did it but they hid the deer....while sheriff was taking statements nieghbor down hill from us drives up and starts yelling that some guy nearly shot him in his yrd at 25yrds...shooting at a doe...he yelled and guy ran....well I talk to his brother and found out it was his ex son-inlaw trespassing he knew it and would say who the guy was to police....this from family who's brother shot and killed a family friend here...the son-inlaw is guy I had arrested a few years ago....GOD ALMIGHTY...there needs to be a bunch of liesences pulled around here!

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