Bob Stout wrote:I mentioned that a "crossbow permit" exists in the state of Wisconsin that you do not have to be physically disabled to qualify for.... It's true, you can hold a Wisconsin crossbow permit without being physically disabled or as you say handicapped.
The heck you say? You mean to tell me that everybody that wants to use a crossbow in WI can do so right now and they don’t have to be disabled or handicapped????
Then why the desire to change the law if folks don’t need to be disabled or handicapped to get a crossbow permit??? If they can already get a crossbow permit, why all the fuss over folks not being able to hunt with a crossbow if they want?
Now Bob, you knew when you posted this B.S. I was going to hit it out of the park. Thanks for teeing it up for me. God love ya brother.
Here is the WI crossbow permit application from the DNR.http://dnr.wi.gov/org/caer/cs/apps/2300107.pdf
When you open it you will see that in order to get a crossbow permit in WI, you must be handicapped/disabled. It states: Applicant must have a disability meeting any of the following criteria:1. Does applicant have an amputation or other loss of one or both arms above the wrist?
2. Does applicant have an amputation or other loss of the index or middle finger on the hand used to draw and release the bow?
3. Does applicant have a permanent substantial loss of function or range of motion in one or both arms, or one or both hands, or one or both shoulders, and fails to meet the minimum standards of any oneof the standard tests? Applications submitted under this paragraph need to complete page 2 of this form and provide additional documentation.
It then goes onto say:
Note to Applicant: This page is only required if you are applying for a permit due to a disability
associated with muscle weakness or limited range of motion.1. If the extent of your disability has never been measured or tested, your physician will need to direct the administration of the testing procedures indicated below. The results will need to be attached to this application.
2. Previous test results may be used for documentation if your physician or chiropractor is willing to attach those results to this application along with a statement that the attached test results are indicative of your present condition. Registered Occupational and Physical Therapists are licensed to conduct exams for muscle and range of motion disabilities. The therapist, ON ORDERS from a physician, will conduct a test of the area of the body that you feel restricts your use of conventional archery equipment because of muscle weakness or limited range of motion.
In the notes to the physician, it says:You should ascertain from the applicant or physician which muscle group is the source of the disability.
At the bottom of the form, after the determination of the disability is made, there are two choices the doctor can make. It says:
1. THE APPLICANT IS ELIGIBLE FOR A PERMIT TO HUNT WITH A CROSSBOW
2. THE APPLICANT IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR A PERMIT TO HUNT WITH A CROSSBOW
Based on this data supplied by the DNR, it would appear Bob that you are either knowingly lying or not that bright. Which is it? Still a doubting Bob? Try this from the DNR web site:http://dnr.wi.gov/org/caer/cs/disabled.htm
It says:Wisconsin law provides for a variety of hunting, fishing and recreational use permits designed to help people with disabilities enjoy the state's natural resources. The following information is important if you have a permanent or temporary physical disability or if you are legally blind. DNR issues a variety of permits that allow you to:
Hunt with a Crossbow - Class B for temporary injury or Class A for permanent disability.
If you care to learn about the class B disability
application, you can view that link and read more.
Here is a DNR brochure called: What You Should Know about Permits for People with Disabilities
. It says:if you have a permanent or temporary physical disability, Different permits allow you to:
HUNT WITH A CROSSBOWhttp://dnr.wi.gov/org/land/wildlife/HUNT/Disability.pdf
So we can see that despite Bob’s attempt to B.S. his way through another post. The DNR spells out in great detail how a person can hunt with a crossbow if they are handicapped or disabled (perm. or temp) Bob, you yourself stated in another thread:
Bob Stout wrote:I've been crossbow hunting in Wisconsin since 2003 with a disabled crossbow permit.
I think it would be best Bob, if you made some sort of attempt to retract your claim or provide something of substance that shows that when you said:
Bob Stout wrote: I mentioned that a "crossbow permit" exists in the state of Wisconsin that you do not have to be physically disabled to qualify for.... It's true, you can hold a Wisconsin crossbow permit without being physically disabled or as you say handicapped.
You were just B.S.ing the fine folks here. Now beyond that. Nobody is talking about the allowance for the disabled as a negative. Everybody agrees, its a great law. But Bob, you need to get over this personal stigma thing you have created in your head. Nobody is coming down on the disabled crossbower. Nobody is seeking to change what you do. We all agree the laws for the handicapped and elderly are fantastic laws. Like I said. A little maturity on your part would help you past this.