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RE: tracking at night

Postby schlupis » Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:10 pm

cutting its throat sounds good but you could get hurt also your saftey should come first... I dont think killing the deer you already wounded is poaching just finishing the job....

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RE: tracking at night

Postby hunter480 » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:43 am

ORIGINAL: schlupis

cutting its throat sounds good but you could get hurt also your saftey should come first... I dont think killing the deer you already wounded is poaching just finishing the job....

 
Quite the contrary... when the law states you may not have a loaded weapon in the field outside of legal shooting hours, and you use that weapon to dispatch that animal, you`ve become a poacher, regardless of "what you think".

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RE: tracking at night

Postby schlupis » Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:11 pm

Ok ok its no win with you you are always right.

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RE: tracking at night

Postby hyguti » Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:55 am

its like that in illinois to your not allowed to have your fire arm loaded or on you after dusk which some times dnr get confused with potching. i had a buddy get a ticket for tracking a deer at night and a dnr thought he shot it after dark cause his gun was loaded. werid but i usually walk back to car to get gutting materials.
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RE: tracking at night

Postby JOEL » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:54 pm

i received a reply .It said that while i could track the deer at night with lights i should not carry my bow or gun if i wanted to kill the deer i could use a knife or wait till morning.From  a DEC officer
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RE: tracking at night

Postby vipermann7 » Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:11 pm

thanks for reply yet, i was surprised to see anyone add anything else!

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RE: tracking at night

Postby Sailfish » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:31 pm

I have a hunt on state land nov1.
New regs just implemented at this site,. this year allow night tracking with lights and a pistol as long as you possess a cwp
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RE: tracking at night

Postby Squirrelhawker » Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:08 am

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i received a reply .It said that while i could track the deer at night with lights i should not carry my bow or gun if i wanted to kill the deer i could use a knife or wait till morning.From  a DEC officer


This came up during my bowhunter instructor certification process. The Master instructor watching me teach had taken issue with my discussion with students re tracking at night. His take was that"we have no business hunting or pursuing deer after dark."

I found this troubling on several levels- what I had been taught, what was ethical in my opinion, and what was legal. I have a certain level of experience with NYS conservation law in the course of my regular job, and I knew that the DEC likes the fact that the law is vague on many points. That way they get to interpret it the way they want to in the course of investigation and enforcement. I know this for a fact.

As it happened I ran into an ECO that I knew well and put the question to him re recovering deer at night. His measured response was to the effect that he "didn't like the idea of leaving them out in the woods overnight but he was aware of the way the reg read", which I believe has to do with the terms "pursuing" and "hunting" So it begs the question, at what point does the process of hunting stop and the process of "recovering" begin?

This kind of thing will always depend to a certain extent on what ECO is enforcing the reg and what the circumstances are surrounding it. These folks are for the most part, highly trained people who have a keen sense of what's going on and who's trying to get away with what. If I shoot at dusk and have a reasonable expectation of recovering a dead deer I for one am on the trail. Deer have been getting dragged out after dark since man has been hunting them, particularly in big country.
I'm not going back to the truck to ditch my bow or gun and I don't think an ECO acting reasonably would expect me to do that.
If I'm up to no good, this is something that usually gets found out sooner or later. Has an ECO ever written a ticket that was not warranted? Most likely. It has been my experience that most of them are not wired that way.

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RE: tracking at night

Postby EatDeer » Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:53 am

That's great you can have that kind of relationship with your conservation officer. However, that dosen't change the fact that it is unlawful to hunt deer with lights at night, and its against the law to have a loaded weapon after normal hunting hours. In my state you could lose your hunting rights, or more, if you get caught breaking the laws. It's just not worth the hassle, in my opinion.    
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RE: tracking at night

Postby Squirrelhawker » Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:26 am

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That's great you can have that kind of relationship with your conservation officer. However, that dosen't change the fact that it is unlawful to hunt deer with lights at night, and its against the law to have a loaded weapon after normal hunting hours. In my state you could lose your hunting rights, or more, if you get caught breaking the laws. It's just not worth the hassle, in my opinion.    


To be sure my gun would be unloaded after dark for more than just regulatory reasons.

So, what would be the scenario in Il if you dumped one at sundown and by the time you dressed it out it was dark?

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