Don't get to discouraged [:)] As for calling with bleats and grunts i might tone it down some, i don't like to call any sooner than 1/2 an hr apart at the earliest, and i'm learning that calling blind might not be the best idea in the world, i haven't had much luck with it, and if you don't do it right and their is a deer nearby, your going to spook it and never get a chance at it without even knowing it's there most likely. I don't think the scents you are using are overkill. Here in Lower MI i have seen a lot more bucks in fields eating with does checking m out in daylight and also walking all around in the woods (too bad i havent been able to get a shot off) but they are up and moving more as the rut approaches [:)] I would keep using the estrous stuff (but maybe something cheaper than code blue!! lol! j/k if you can afford it by all means use it lol, i hear it works great! i wish i had money to buy some lol) and dont be too upset about the human urine thing, human urine does not effect deer in a negative way, they have done tests and it seems to interest the deer some rather than tend to scare them off. Plus i think i read like 85% of scrapes are visited at night... so i mean finding some is great! But hunting right near them might not be the best idea, unless you know they are coming to check em right before daybreak or dusk. A better bet would be to try to find a great food source or even better, the bedding area.. just nto too close [;)] good luck though!! You'll get one as ong as you stay with it!!