I agree with you all on the permission cards. I even knew about them, just thought I was in solid. Hind sight. On a serious note, the landowner is in the hospital and they do not expect him to make it out. So when you put things in perspective seems really petty. On the positive side, I have been hunting the place I do have as much as I can, which isn't enough, but I have seen 2 nice 160-180 class bucks. I don't think I can make it out tomorrow so if they survive to the weekend I may get a chance at one. I will seriously be happy to put a doe in the freezer at this point. I have seen a lot of deer but nothing close enough to pull back on. Actually my brother in law and me were hunting couple days ago. He stuck a doe in the morning but we couldn't find, tracked for quite a ways and long time but blood just stopped. We decided to switch stands in the afternoon. I had 4 20 yds away behind me, I am right handed on a beagle hang on and could not get turned around. He would have had them. He is left handed and had an 8 point come to his right and he coulndn't get turned. You really just have to laugh.