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Re: dominance is everything

Postby xmatax » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:20 am

I'm sorry I'll have to go with my gut and say this isn't true. I also don't want to offend you two, but your first comments are posting about how brilliant this guy is. I honestly find it hard to believe you have 1 post and 1 post only on this forum and somehow you managed to find the thread talking about this Bob guy.

I'm with Shaman and the others, save your money and don't go.

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Re: dominance is everything

Postby shaman » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:21 pm

Monty Python had a sketch called "How to Do It Lessons."

http://www.montypython.net/scripts/howtodoit.php

I really know nothing about the DIE method or what it teaches, but when I heard about this method, that Monty Python sketch came to mind. I do know quite a bit about deer hunting on my own little 200 acre plot, and I've been deer hunting since Reagan's first term.

Let me give y'all an over-simplified view of how to nail a big buck:

1) Go somewhere where there are lots of deer that can be hunted. Where I hunt, there are lots of deer. B&C says there are 45 deer per sq. mile. My guess is there are probably more.
2) Follow the patterns of the resident doe groups in your area. That means boots-on-the-ground scouting and time spent watching the doe. These are your bait that you will use to lure the big bucks.
3) Be nice to your doe. Don't hunt them. Don't pester them. Don't threaten them. Let them get used to your presence.
4) Find a few places where the resident doe frequently go. Put up a stand or blind to observe them. Find where they eat. Find where they bed. Draw a line between the two. Your blinds should be along that line, where it will be most advantageous to observe them without being observed. You will know you have succeeded so far in your endevour, if you are regularly seeing doe come by and they do not spook.
5) Wait until the rut happens. Be in your stands or blinds watching. Be there as often as you can for as long as you can. As the rut cranks up, big bucks will come in to tend your doe.
6) Shoot the big bucks.

Now, as I said, I know nothing about DIE. However, I daresay most hunters get hung up on #1 or #2. By the time they think they are at #3, they are frustrated. They have no clue how to pull off #4. By the time #5 comes around, the woods appear empty to them because they've fouled up somewhere in steps #1 thru #4. As a result, they never get to #6.

Me? Look, I get a shot at the top buck on the place maybe once every couple years or so. Sometimes it's just that he's got a cedar tree between us at just the wrong time. Other times he just doesn't show up when I'm there, but I consider myself fortunate that I have that kind of result for what I put into it. I have a neighbor who hunts the Opener in Sept to the last day in January and does not have much better results.
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Re: dominance is everything

Postby terriejohnston » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:37 pm

I have a question if you went to the seminar then if you are questioning the DIE system why didn't you try it? I tried it this year and it worked for me Dominant buck took over my scrape seen the Dominant buck on day 2 then had some tresspasser come on the property while setting up my shot. So buck ran off. The system works I was a non believer and will not go back to traditional hunting I will using the system in Arizona hunting for Couse Deer in AZ for bow season in the middle of their rutting season will post results. Try it before you knock it spending 50 bucks for the book will teach you alot about the wind if you hunt with alot of traditional hunters will not even hunt if it is to windy and that is the truth hear it all the time.

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Re: dominance is everything

Postby shaman » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:25 pm

Isn't it a funny coincidence? This thread keeps being visited by guys who make their one and only post about this AMAZING system.

Personally, I like the guy with the golf clubs better.

I didn't go to the seminar, and if my last post got you to thinking I did, then much of what I posted about my system must be a lot like what DIE is like. Yes, you can pay $50 and go, or you can hang out at D&DH forum and get it for free.

Now, how much do you think I should charge for my seminars?
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Re: dominance is everything

Postby Woods Walker » Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:12 pm

"Isn't it a funny coincidence? This thread keeps being visited by guys who make their one and only post about this AMAZING system."

You noticed that too, huh?

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Re: dominance is everything

Postby Woods Walker » Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:18 pm

And how do you KNOW it's the "dominant buck" anyway? Does he have a sign around his neck? Does he confess under heavy interogation before you shoot him? Does another one of the local bucks "narc" on him so THEY can then be the "dominant buck"? Or do you feel the "vibes" after taking the seminar? Seems to me that anyone can call any decent buck they kill the "dominant" buck and who'd even know either way?

And is there also a dominatrix doe? Now THAT might be worth 50 bucks!!! :o
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Re: dominance is everything

Postby rmw » Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:44 am

Well I read the book and it does have potential. Although I don't think there is any way a person could meet all the criteria to get the 100% success guarantee. The book is hard to read but I would expect this of a first time author of a instructional manual. Basically you make a scrape and a rub to the authors specs during the rut/pre rut and give the dominate buck time to find it, then hunt it for 4 days "all day" the way he tells you to . He has some not traditional thoughts/beliefs but I have known some other very successful hunters that think the way he does. A guy here in Mi named Bill Vale wrote a book "very good BTW" that has some of the same thoughts on wind direction . If he ever comes to Mi I'll go to a seminar , heck he's only charging $90.00 in Wi right now that's less than it costs me to fill up my truck . In that amount of time I would spend way more money at a bar/movie theater/casino, and get in less trouble

I did not have time to do the full version of his hunt this yr but I did do his condensed version and the scrape did bring in multiple bucks during day light just nothing I wanted to shoot , but I did get to see a nice little 8 my wife shot on thanksgiving day . BTW I am a whitetail book/info junkie I am currently reading Don Higgins new book and would recommend it highly only being about 1/4 into it

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Re: dominance is everything

Postby Woods Walker » Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:07 pm

Yes, but how do you or anyone else know that it's THE "dominant buck"?? It may be a big buck, but he's claiming that it's the dominant buck. Unless you check his ID, there's no way to know. Anyone can claim anything they want.

He may very well have some good tips, but the snake oil stuff is a turn off.
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Re: dominance is everything

Postby Sailfish » Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:23 am

shaman wrote:
Personally, I like the guy with the golf clubs better.



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Re: dominance is everything

Postby JPH » Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:41 am

shaman wrote:...how much do you think I should charge for my seminars?


Shaman, pro-staffers do it for the glory.

*SLAP!*

Get your head right man! People are counting on us.

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