I wouldn't go bonkers if I found someone in my stand, but I certainly would have a discussion, and it would last well past dawn and beyond. Even if it were with myself at the base of the tree my stand sat in.
I'm glad this thread arose.
I recently encountered a happening on my lease with the landowner and I wanted to discuss it with others. Since I have always hunted family land I just don't have a full grasp on leases, hunting and hangin stand and LO's.
This is my second full year on 500 acres (I am the only archery person). I was the newbie. I was allotted an area that was "mine" affectionately known as the "Doe area". I could do whatever and no one else bothered me. My own stands etc etc. Problem is........i've never seen a buck(on camera or live), only does, and were not allowed to shoot them.
I talked to the LO this year about "my area" and the lack of productivity and he did mention again I was the newbie BUT a few fella's dropped out (there are only 4 of us). I asked about this one, well wooded area called the "tiger stand" area and he said yes I could hunt it (Its on the other end of the property) this year as well. I scouted, set up camera, etc found what I needed and hung my own stands (there are MULTIPLE existing stands on the property) and killed a buck opening day (I have one left). He said great job, you might want to save your last deer for rifle (I thought into this and it almost appeared to be a statement not a suggestion...)
I called him last week since opening rifle is this Saturday to see who would be hunting near the tiger stand (just wanted to know who was where etc so I don't walk over or near them on the way to my stuff) and such. He said he borrowed a fella's backhoe for a month and was paying him back by letting him hunt the tiger stand, but he'll show me another area I can go to. I said, uhm, ok, I still have my stands up and I could grab one out of there, and he said yeah you better get them out (if this is only a payback for the fella, why do I have to get them all out? Funny feeling #2) Then as we talk I find out not only is it this fella but its his wife too!! Ok I said, see you Monday.
I get there, he shows me the area no one is hunting, decent area, longer shots than I would like, but within reason. I've seen deer there so no big deal. He points me to an existing stand. I have walked this area and know the woods behind it are thick and there is a now mostly dry crick bed that deer cross and walk down and I mentioned "this is great, I could put something along there". Then he mention another spot and another spot, and one of them is near a small waterhole and I'm like oh yeah this is turning out great!! So I have all these options...........and then at the end of the drive................he just casually states "So we'll see you out in the "doe area" Saturday then" Once again more of a statement than a question.I'm like well what about xxx and he's like yeah, well you won't want to do that with fresh hung stands and all. But he knows darn well I don't have stands up at the "doe area" either and i'd have to move new stuff there!! So i'm in a daze at the moment..........drop him off back at the house and go out to get my stands.
I drive over to the tiger stand where I killed the archery buck and find a freakin feeder hanging in the opening of the trail to my kill spot (freaky bells and whistle #whatever). It appears this couple has now been given the "tiger stand" as there's. WTH happened to me moving up from newbie status???
I got my gear out, went to doe area and set it up.
I get the alleged whole payback backhoe stuff, farmers around here trade alot out, but why offer/show me all my other options yet strongly encourage I hunt elsewhere, I am paying afterall. I have a friend who is his cousin, she said the talk Thanksgiving was of the "newbie" who got the first deer this year (Bells and whistle #??)
He is a SUPER nice man, mind you he's not all "gosh darn gee" and pure of sin, but genuinely a nice fella.
I'm into the whole journey thing not just the destination when it comes to this. I like clearing lanes, scouting, scent control, keeping my presence minimum, moons, all that stuff. Heck I want to do mini-food plots. But if it's just going for naught if I am going to be third-rate it sort of takes the fun out of it for me.
Is this often typical of LO's? Is he trying to please everyone? Spread the wealth (I didn't get one deer last year)? Just taking advantage of the nice guy (me)?
I don't get it.