Gafrage: I don't live or hunt in Wisconsin, I live and hunt in Illinois. And I don't spend ANY days on stand. I gave up on shooting deer from trees because it wasn't challenging enough anymore. Now I HUNT them on the ground. On their terms. No blinds, no stands, no trail cams, cell phones or any other do-dads. Just me and what I've learned from over 50 years of being in the woods.
And you know what? I'm having more fun now than ever. Do I have a shot everytime I go out? No. Hunting this way I see and get close to deer very frequently....many times TOO close...., but getting a shot off with the bow is another story, or at least what I consider a high percentage shot. Is it hard to do? Hell yeah. Frustrating at times? You betcha'. Can I see and shoot more deer from a tree on a deer farm? Absolutely! But it's "hard" that MAKES IT SO DARN GOOD! In my mind, passing on "lesser" bucks because they don't meet some arbitrary standard regardless of the difficulty of hunting that particular deer completely ignores the whole reason behind the HUNT in the first place.
I'm at the point in my hunting life where it's no longer about how many or how big, but the challenge of the HUNT that's the most important thing. I'd rather shoot a forkhorn or a doe that I stalked and shot on the ground undetected than a "shooter buck" that I assasinate from a treestand. The last few deer I shot from a stand I actually started getting "let down" when I SAW them approach and get within range. Time for a change.
Maybe I could come up north some time and you could give me some tips on how to kill deer. At the very least I could kiss your feet for being the one responsible for me killing the nice bucks that I have because you were generous enough to not shoot them. Bless you! And all this time I foolishly thought that I've killed the deer I have because I've been a lifetime student of the woods for a half a century, always observing, always questioning everything about not only deer, but other animals, birds, insects, plants, soils clouds, wind, and even rocks, when all this time it's been because a generous fellow in Wisconsin was sacrificing just for me! All those years running a trapline, hunting EVERYTHING, fishing, making my living outdoors, and living in the woods with deer all around us so that I can read sign that most "hunters" walk right by has nothing to do with it!
If you want to be a deer farmer, that's fine with me! Take pics of them, count them, name them, give them an affirmative action pass, whatever. I will continue to HUNT them as the wild creatures that God intended them to be. My license says "DEER TAG". Not "bucks over 4.5 years of age with a spread of 21" or more that someone else was kind enough to pass on tag".
I know many QDM types who are out and out "antler nazi's" who go around telling other legal deer hunters what THEY should or shouldn't shoot, and then having the gall to berate them when they shoot a deer that doesn't match up to their "standards"!!! I'm old and crotchedy enough to want to go out and tag as many 1.5 year old 8 pointers as I can legally kill when I hear that!
I have to give you credit, your QDM approach is a new one for me, that I should THANK YOU for when I do kill what you consider to be a "trophy" deer!
Oh...and if I want to "shoot deer whenever I want and what I want", I'll just go to a deer farm and pick one out. But I like to HUNT my deer. That's the main thing. The shooting part is just icing on the cake. And the best part is that no one has to thank me for it!
But is that what it's all about for you? Being able to shoot whatever deer you want whenever you want because you made yourself a deer farm? Really? I feel sorry for you my friend, I really do. Your missing the whole point of the hunt.....but then again, you've shown that you aren't there for the hunt, in fact the hunt isn't even part of it anymore.
I hope I never get to that point!
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on Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:50 am, edited 2 times in total.
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