WI Crossbow Law Almost Final

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Re: WI Crossbow Law Almost Final

Postby Deebz » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:02 pm

I think it's awesome that WI hunters are going to be able to use a crossbow. I wish the IL laws would change so as to accommodate crossbows for all archers all season long. As it is now, I believe that any archery tag can be filled with a crossbow after the second firearms session has closed.

That being said, I also think WI has a good idea in how they have arranged their licenses/permits to be specific to either an upright bow or a crossbow. This method will definitely give valid data on which weapons are used to kill the deer that are reported.

However, I disagree that the overall number of deer/bucks killed will increase. Some people who use vertical bows may switch to crossbows. Some people who are gun hunters may pick up a crossbow to take advantage of longer seasons. This could cause a skew in the numbers of bucks killed by specific weapons, but I don't think a person who is accustomed to killing a certain number of deer per year is going to suddenly kill a lot more simply because a new type of weapon is available. I just don't buy into the idea that kililng a deer with a crossbow is ridiculously easier than killing a deer with a vertical bow. This is ESPECIALLY true for the faction of people who have never hunted at all (or only hunted with rifles/slug guns) who may pursue the whitetail with a crossbow. There is a HUGE learning curve when beginning hunting or transitioning from gun to ANY kind of bow. My wife has hunted for 3 years now. She has killed 1 deer, a button buck that most likely had very little conditioning to humans. I have killed 3 deer with my bow in the same number of years (and passed up on 6-8 shots at young bucks that I could have killed).

A crossbow is NOT more effective at killing a deer than a vertical bow. The only aspect of the bow that I would agree with making it easier to use is that you don't have to draw it with a deer in range. You still have to move the large/wide limbs around in the timber to get lined up for the shot. Scopes may be somewhat easier to use, but my peep sight and fiber optic pins on my vertical bow do basically the same job. As far as range goes, the average crossbow hunter may take shots out to 60 yards. But you know what, so can the average vertical bow hunter. The new technologies not only with the faster bows that are delivering more energy, but also the arrows that are designed for better downrange performance have increased the effective range of a vertical bow just as much. If you go elk hunting with a bow, a 60-65 yard shot is something (I've been told) that you should be expected to be able to make. A couple weekends ago I had a gorgeous 9 pointer feeding 71 yds (per my range finder) and broadside. The buck was completely relaxed and had no idea I was there. I drew on him for practice. I had no intention of taking a shot. However, this was not for lack of confidence in my weapon to kill at that range, but rather lack of confidence in my shooting ability. (The bow is new to me this year and I have not shot it past 40 yards) The 15-20 mph crosswind was another factor that kept me from taking a shot.

So...all in all I think it's great that there are more options out there for people who want to hunt using the weapon they would like to use. As far as harvest numbers go, I really don't believe there will be much of a difference when you look at the overall numbers. The best part about it is that there is a system in place to reliably track the numbers of deer killed by individual weapons. Therefore we should be able to have some data to back up our opinions in the next couple of years.
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Re: WI Crossbow Law Almost Final

Postby fullrut » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:03 pm

I bow hunt - I gun hunt - I BP hunt - I might even cross-bow hunt if the season was during the gun or BP season.
I stand FIRM in my convictions that this law has degraded the History of Wi Deer hunting.
This law will continue to divide the hunting numbers and pit hunter against hunter for yrs to come.

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Re: WI Crossbow Law Almost Final

Postby kellory » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:33 pm

Retch, your style is unmistakable. (ever the constant slur), and way too close to politics. :(
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Re: WI Crossbow Law Almost Final

Postby Ohio farms » Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:01 pm

Amen to that Kellory.
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Re: WI Crossbow Law Almost Final

Postby MZS » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:51 am

I can't speak for others, but my rationale for a crossbow is to get a better, more accurate shot from a ground blind, at a slightly longer range (30yd) where such a shot is easier to get. Try to get such a shot from 18 yds in a ground blind pulling back a compound bow - it is tough! With the crossbow I just bought I was shooting within 2" time after time at 30 yds, which is good enough for me.

MI has gone crossbow fairly recently - what was the effect in this state? Seems that MI would be fairly similar to WI.

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