Thanks for the input guys! Not ever planting a plot seems a challenge at first, namely what and when to plant... and plot prep. Luckily, I have farm implements at my ready to plant acres upon acres, but these plots won't be more than 2 acres in size each... 2 plots. For the late late season... January, the deer flock to the alfalpha feilds. Last year I remember counting out more than 100 deer in this one 15 acre feild that didn't get a late season cut... so it stood 3 feet. I tried hunting it, but man alive, soooo many eyes and the hunting season had them on edge... I never was able to take a doe. Back to plots... brassicas would be great, but will have had a 1st frost by the 2nd week of Nov, generally. Turnips will still work even after as they will dig the fleshy root up even after the green die out... am I wrong on this? So turnips, winter pea, cereal rye, possibly brassica (I can try)... you guys have given some good early fall planting options. These are all broadcast seeds right?